Re:European natural gas imports and storage reserves
by wbsss4412 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @12:39PM
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> Your "simple first step" is nonsense
What are you talking about? I never said anything about a “simple first step”
> appeals to right and wrong are only persuasive for people who are aligned with you one that
Look, I’m all for understanding the other side, but don’t take empathy so far that morality has no meaning.
Re:European natural gas imports and storage reserves
by tablespoon on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @12:40PM
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> What are you talking about? I never said anything about a “simple first step”
I corrected that. I didn't notice at first that you were a different account than the one I originally responded to.
Re:European natural gas imports and storage reserves
by serpix on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @12:40PM
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The POV of Russia is genocide of Ukrainian people and culture. This is a POV that is not up for consideration or saving of face.
Re:European natural gas imports and storage reserves
by tablespoon on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @12:42PM
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> The POV of Russia is genocide of Ukrainian people and culture. This is a POV that is not up for consideration or saving of face.
Exactly, so no one should suggest to the Russians that they just go home because what they're doing is wrong. It's not realistic. If you want them to just go home, you have to do better than that to engineer the situation. Otherwise, the options are fight or surrender to them.
No, it's rooted in the notion that Russia has it's own POV, and it's that POV that will determine its actions. The GGP's "simple first step" is nonsense, because it didn't recognize that POV.
> but an analysis of the war needs to be rooted in what’s right and what’s wrong.
And if someone (like an adversary) doesn't share your views about what’s right and what’s wrong, they'll reject your analysis and any recommendations based on it.