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Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @08:33AM (#32823454)
anti-GMO is anti-science just like anti-vax. They both rely on similar FUD and blame the bogeyman of big Pharma/Ag. They also ignore massive scientific evidence backing the safety.
Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by unity1001 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:13AM (#32824534)
Genetics is science. GMOS are products. Being Anti-GMO does not make anyone 'anti-science'.

You Americans need to lose that 'either-or' mentality in which you polarize to extreme end of EVERY single thing.

> They also ignore massive scientific evidence backing the safety

There was massive evidence that backed the safety of a large host of technologies and products until they were proven lethal. Majority of the evidence backing those came from privately-funded US think thanks and research institutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_bias

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:35AM (#32824815)
The anti-vax people can say something similar:

"Immunology is science. Vaccines are products. Being Anti-Vaccine does not make anyone 'anti-science'."

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by unity1001 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @11:19AM (#32825448)
Precisely. That would be also correct. In the US, the concept 'vaccines' have been made into another extreme polarization topic. Its either/or.

The fact that vaccines are also products and there can be heavily deregulated corporations running roughshod in that industry escapes one side of that spectrum.

If a corporation like Glaxo Smith Klein can knowingly kill 150,000 Americans with their drug Avandia, and even starts to suppress evidence before releasing the drug and GETS AWAY with it, one can easily conclude that any other US corporation in health sector would be doing similar things. At the time of the Avandia drug scandal, there were THREE other massive corporations like GSK who did precisely the same.

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by spywaregorilla on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:24AM (#32823950)
Not when GMO crops are being modified to survive fatal amounts of pesticide.
Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by Nicksil on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:27AM (#32823986)
>Not when GMO crops are being modified to survive fatal amounts of pesticide.

Which GMO crops? Fatal for what/whom?

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by spywaregorilla on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:34AM (#32824066)
Fatal for the plants. Many GMO crops are designed by pesticide companies. They enable the farmers to use more pesticide. Which does increase yields. But now there's even more poison being thrown around.
Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by Nicksil on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:36AM (#32824085)
>Fatal for the plants. Many GMO crops are designed by pesticide companies. They enable the farmers to use more pesticide. Which does increase yields. But now there's even more poison being thrown around.

Farmers want to use less pesticide.

What poison?

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by spywaregorilla on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:43AM (#32824189)
> Farmers want to use less pesticide.

They want to increase profit yield. If more pesticide produces more revenue than the cost of the stuff then they'll want to use more.

You're free to do research on this on your own. I'm not interested in sourcing links for you. I will amend that it's moreso herbicides than pesticides.

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by Nicksil on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:50AM (#32824258)
>They want to increase profit yield. If more pesticide produces more revenue than the cost of the stuff then they'll want to use more.

>You're free to do research on this on your own. I'm not interested in sourcing links for you. I will amend that it's moreso herbicides than pesticides.

I have done and continue to do research in this field which is why I am perplexed by what you're saying; it doesn't make sense.

Applying more pesticide doesn't increase profit; it lessens due to the added cost and diminished returns. You'll be hard-pressed to find an agriculture operation applying more pesticide than absolutely necessary.

The advances in agriculture technology has lessened the amount of product application necessary, not increased it.

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by spywaregorilla on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:16AM (#32824572)
Fine first result I got on google

https://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/2190-471...

> Herbicide-resistant crop technology has led to a 239 million kilogram (527 million pound) increase in herbicide use in the United States between 1996 and 2011, while Bt crops have reduced insecticide applications by 56 million kilograms (123 million pounds). Overall, pesticide use increased by an estimated 183 million kgs (404 million pounds), or about 7%.

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by muro on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:07AM (#32823749)
Cough Monsanto Roundup cough
Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by Nicksil on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @09:25AM (#32823955)
>Cough Monsanto Roundup cough

What is this? Please contribute a more substantive comment to the discussion.

Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by unity1001 on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:14AM (#32824542)
Google it. Sheeshh...
Re:Europe’s Drought Might Force Acceptance of Gene-Edited Crops by Nicksil on Tuesday September 13, 2022 @10:23AM (#32824659)
>Google it. Sheeshh...

Google what? The comment is what is being referenced, not Monsanto Roundup.