Re:Guns bought through credit cards in the US will now be tr...
by salawat on Saturday September 10, 2022 @09:41PM
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>This is an attempt to technically excuse away a tool that you always treat as loaded until confirmed otherwise and you never point at something unless you intend to destroy what you’re pointing at.
Same logic applies to line throwers, flare guns, seed shotguns, pyrotechnic shells, the myriad uses of a 40mm grenade launcher i fail to see your point. Something can be dangerous without it's primary use being kill someone, or else power cords would be classed as deadly weapons.
>There is a large canyon between “guns for everyone” and “take away all the guns”, and room for improvement as it relates to harm reduction.
Uh huh, and what the plan is is to eventually put in place enough friction that no one would bother buying more, then sit and wait for the old stuff to age out, right? That's not reasonable though, right, because we haven't gone through a century of having the thumbs screws applied to firearms in myriad ways; because we haven't had the mere presence, but non employment of a firearm turned into an escalation criteria from misdemeanor to felony with statutory sentencing stapled on? Because firearms haven't been "regulated" through a constitutional backdoor whereby the means of legally owning something has been mandated to have no Federal budget spent on it's upkeep, thereby infringing on a 2nd Amendment via indirection.
Sorry, not sorry. I'm more than read up on that minutiae. I know the arguments, and most of them degenerate down to "I don't feel safe other people are free to own those things." To which my response is, tough luck.
You want harm reduction? Maybe start looking at the core problem. Stop architecting the economic system to massively favor the capital wielding class. Pay people fairly, stop looking for fiscal growth potential for it's own sake, and decrease the overall risk of merely existing by rendering sane the medical infrastructure. Reinstate public works where necessary to create and upkeep infrastructure while increasing economic mobility and bounceback potential.
People tend to be much less violent when the game isn't so blantantly tilted in someone else's favor.
Same logic applies to line throwers, flare guns, seed shotguns, pyrotechnic shells, the myriad uses of a 40mm grenade launcher i fail to see your point. Something can be dangerous without it's primary use being kill someone, or else power cords would be classed as deadly weapons.
>There is a large canyon between “guns for everyone” and “take away all the guns”, and room for improvement as it relates to harm reduction.
Uh huh, and what the plan is is to eventually put in place enough friction that no one would bother buying more, then sit and wait for the old stuff to age out, right? That's not reasonable though, right, because we haven't gone through a century of having the thumbs screws applied to firearms in myriad ways; because we haven't had the mere presence, but non employment of a firearm turned into an escalation criteria from misdemeanor to felony with statutory sentencing stapled on? Because firearms haven't been "regulated" through a constitutional backdoor whereby the means of legally owning something has been mandated to have no Federal budget spent on it's upkeep, thereby infringing on a 2nd Amendment via indirection.
Sorry, not sorry. I'm more than read up on that minutiae. I know the arguments, and most of them degenerate down to "I don't feel safe other people are free to own those things." To which my response is, tough luck.
You want harm reduction? Maybe start looking at the core problem. Stop architecting the economic system to massively favor the capital wielding class. Pay people fairly, stop looking for fiscal growth potential for it's own sake, and decrease the overall risk of merely existing by rendering sane the medical infrastructure. Reinstate public works where necessary to create and upkeep infrastructure while increasing economic mobility and bounceback potential.
People tend to be much less violent when the game isn't so blantantly tilted in someone else's favor.