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Re:On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence ... by rocqua on Saturday September 10, 2022 @08:40AM (#32790092)
What surprises me is that I as a dutch citizen working in cyber security, have heard nothing about these new laws. Maybe I've been neglecting the right sources, but this change feels (up to now) very under the radar and uncontested. I hope this will put some more emphasis on this new law.

edit: Having looked into this a bit more, two things stand out: - The law is temporary - The justification is being able to counter nation states with an offensive cyber programme.

Re:On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence ... by belter on Saturday September 10, 2022 @08:56AM (#32790192)
"The Netherlands, a surveillance state?" - https://www.ictrecht.nl/en/blog/the-netherlands-a-surveillan...

https://wetgevingskalender.overheid.nl/regeling/WGK012972

"The Dutch government wants to continue to spy on activists’ social media" - https://racismandtechnology.center/2022/05/11/the-dutch-gove...

https://www.bitsoffreedom.nl/2022/03/31/wij-lieten-ons-horen...

"...The government service NCTV creates fake accounts, follows people online and shares analyzes with the police or municipalities..." - https://www.amnesty.nl/forms/pet-nctv

Re:On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence ... by danuker on Saturday September 10, 2022 @11:23AM (#32791452)
> The law is temporary

In 1971: "I have directed Secretary Connally to suspend temporarily the convertibility of the dollar into gold or other reserve assets"

Still goes on today, 51 years later.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock

Re:On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence ... by tgv on Saturday September 10, 2022 @12:38PM (#32792178)
The Netherlands still has a court that can overrule the government, and actually has told it drop to the temporary covid/lock-down laws, because they should be repaced by permanent laws, supported by both chambers or parliament. If the government wouldn't do that, these laws would be voided.
Re:On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence ... by klabb3 on Saturday September 10, 2022 @11:44AM (#32791644)
“Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program” – Milton Friedman
Re:On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence ... by Sjonny on Saturday September 10, 2022 @12:42PM (#32792226)
> The law is temporary

I'm not so sure about this. In the article he states:

> Once it became clear the intended law would likely pass parliament

and in the dutch version it sounds even worse to me:

> Na het verschijnen van het advies van de Raad van State is mij duidelijk geworden dat de verruiming van de bevoegdheden en de verschuiving van het toezicht niet meer ongedaan zullen worden gemaakt.

I can't really tell for sure if he thinks this law is here to stay, but me being a pessimist when it comes down to government, I think there is nothing temporary about this.

Re:On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence ... by rocqua on Monday September 12, 2022 @04:32AM (#32807493)
The actual law is called "tijdelijke wet ...".

That doesn't mean the sentiment change behind the law isn't permanent, and it might (but I don't believe so) be a temporary law that is extended indefinitely. But the law, as written and intended is temporary. I think that should factor into the discussion (as should the fact that sometimes people call a thing temporary whilst intending for it to be permanent).

Re:On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence ... by tgv on Saturday September 10, 2022 @12:42PM (#32792227)
Has been reported in NRC.