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Re:A legal fund to sue SF over housing deadlock by throwaway102233 on Friday September 09, 2022 @08:58PM (#32786641)
I think we need to give the homeless more money, that should solve the problem.
Re:A legal fund to sue SF over housing deadlock by DoreenMichele on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:35PM (#32786836)
No. YIMBY has the better plan. We need more housing appropriate to the needs of our people.

Money can't buy you what isn't being built.

Re:A legal fund to sue SF over housing deadlock by throwaway102233 on Saturday September 10, 2022 @07:41PM (#32795466)
the problem being that a large majority of the homeless in SF aren't "your people". They aren't SF locals, they move there for the benefits and the nice weather.
Re:A legal fund to sue SF over housing deadlock by DoreenMichele on Saturday September 10, 2022 @07:54PM (#32795550)
Yeah, I'm aware. In one of my comments here, I link to a piece I wrote with a title along the lines of "I believe California is the dumping ground for the nation's homeless."

We have a nationwide shortage of affordable housing. The fact that the homeless flock to someplace temperate and relatively dry with soup kitchens and such in no way changes my point: Money cannot buy what does not exist to be bought. Anywhere in the US.

We need to fix our housing supply issues. We need to fix it across the nation, not just in SF. SF is suffering disproportionately, but my point stands: Throwing money at the homeless won't fix this. The solutions they need aren't out there. They need to be built.

Re:A legal fund to sue SF over housing deadlock by kadabra9 on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:03PM (#32786669)
SF has spent over $3B on the homeless over the last 5 years, and the pop continues to skyrocket along with rampant crime and drug use. Money isn’t the issue, at least in this case
Re:A legal fund to sue SF over housing deadlock by MonkeyMalarky on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:11PM (#32786702)
The point about closing institutions because of abuse is not wrong. The solution isn't to close them and push the mentally ill out on the street, it's fix the institutions!
Re:A legal fund to sue SF over housing deadlock by throwaway102233 on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:16PM (#32786727)
^ 100% agree, some mentally ill people just need to be in an institution, where they can either get the care and treatment they need - and hopefully be cured and become a functional member of society - or at least where the amount of harm they are able to cause to themselves (and society) can be minimised.
Re:A legal fund to sue SF over housing deadlock by uoaei on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:30PM (#32786806)
Giving money to bureaucracies whose nominal mission is to serve the homeless is not the same as giving money to the homeless.