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Re:The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube by serf on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:10PM (#32784958)
> Click bait isn't different than wearing a funny hat to engage students in class.

what are you talking about?

a student gets stuck going to class regardless of how goofy the teacher dresses, whereas I feel an extreme sense of revulsion when I click on a YT link with a meme-thumbnail or a clickbait title.

your analogy fails since in this instance the 'student' gets to decide whether or not they participate in the course.

If I had had the chance to walk out on goofy teachers through high school then -- just as one anecdote -- I wouldn't have graduated.

so, in other words, clickbait 'engagement' style marketing will get your volume numbers up, but the hidden aspect is that there will be a market that pulls entirely away from you -- 'teachers' on YT will need to understand these market dynamics if they're really interested in teaching the masses rather than making money on viewership.

If teachers K-12 were paid according to their student throughput that'd turn into a major humanitarian crisis, imo.

Re:The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube by nwienert on Friday September 09, 2022 @05:26PM (#32785119)
You’re baking in the assumption that goofy hat is 100% correlated with bad content, but I’d say 30% of my YouTube subscriptions do the goofy hat thing (usually just having somewhat baity thumbnails / titles) yet deliver great content.

And honestly? I don’t care. The content is good, and if the hat gets them more viewers then all the better.

Re:The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube by OJFord on Friday September 09, 2022 @08:20PM (#32786430)
I'm not who you replied to, but I do care, I don't want to be made to feel stupid, I don't want to think that people are stupid, I want things to be presented as they are even if not immediately understands them.

In the UK we see this with nonsense talk of 'the [energy] price cap' being some £ figure per year - when it's not, it's a £/kWh cap, but the media can't cope with that, we're stuck with what it means for 'the average household'. Even comparison sites refuse to compare what you actually pay, £/day and £/kWh, and instead insist on asking you about number of bedrooms etc.

I'm sick of everything being dumbed down.

Re:The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube by nwienert on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:28PM (#32786791)
Ok well that’s a different scenario. I mean I agree some things are dumbed down way too much.

I’m just saying there’s a decent reason for some of it. A huge audience on YouTube are children, teens.

Re:The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube by Too on Saturday September 10, 2022 @01:55AM (#32788195)
Good example of clown being educational is ElectroBoom. He constantly keeps "accidentally" electrocuting himself and goofing around. The videos have very crisp editing and baity thumbnails. At the same time a lot of the content is deeply informative and educational.

I'm not sure you can call his series a curriculum, yet I think I learned a lot more from there than from my university classes, despite watching it primarily for the fun and not for learning.