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Re:Building future cities out of timber could save 100B tons... by lordswork on Thursday September 08, 2022 @09:25PM (#32774214)
>Future hasn’t happened yet, past experience is not viable as it lacked the new constraints of the future.

This reads like nonsense to me.

Why are you talking about human bodies in warmer temperatures? What do you think goes into a climate model?

Re:Building future cities out of timber could save 100B tons... by evr1isnxprt on Thursday September 08, 2022 @11:41PM (#32775053)
Ok keeping it simple; any model we make has a non-zero chance of being bullshit.

Parameters could be over or under weighted given current state, choices of scientists.

And we have ZERO data points from a future where people actually are living with another 100 years of climate change; we could be massively over or under weighting without historical data of a future that hasn’t happened; your goal is rife with paradox and uncertainty; how do we use our trend modeling tools that rely on historical data without historical data from a future we haven’t experienced?

All our model is is old data points and some guesses at trends which may or may not hold. Scientists now cannot force people to stick to their model.

These are mathematical truths too, sorry you don’t have the context. I’m just gonna be done here. Cya later bye.

Re:Building future cities out of timber could save 100B tons... by lordswork on Friday September 09, 2022 @09:40AM (#32779096)
This reminds me a lot of Jordan Peterson's argument about climate change modeling:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jan/27/word-sal...

Anyway, I think the main disconnect is your misunderstanding about how climate modeling works. It's much more about the physics of GHGs in the atmosphere and how those impact the global temperature and the downstream effects on local climates and weather patterns. Human activity can be summarized as: humans emitted 51 billion tons of GHGs last year and that number continues to grow.

Re:Building future cities out of timber could save 100B tons... by evr1isnxprt on Friday September 09, 2022 @01:54PM (#32782615)
I was never talking about climate models. I rebuked the idea survival is certain because it won’t be “too hot” for biology according to a climate model. We have no idea if we’ll remain rational actors until we experience and try to adapt to further climate change.

Constraining “survivability” to one metric is stupid.

Was tired and busy yesterday. Got rambly.

Re:Building future cities out of timber could save 100B tons... by lordswork on Friday September 09, 2022 @02:34PM (#32783158)
I'm having a hard time following your statements. Can you say exactly what about current IPCC 2022 climate model findings you disagree with?