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Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by kqr on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:05PM (#32770444)
Does Ruby come pre-installed on virtually every Unix-like system out there?
Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by jrochkind1 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @04:12PM (#32771416)
No, and if it is, who knows what version it is.

I think that's the main thing preventing one from using ruby like this. It is otherwise preferable in pretty much every way.

Perl is kind of pre-installed on virtually every Unix-like system for what are at this point historical/legacy reasons. It is unlikely any other language can ever achieve this at this point.

Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by kqr on Friday September 09, 2022 @12:29AM (#32775308)
Indeed. As much as I would like to use Ruby or Raku for this type of stuff, I keep coming back to Perl because it's simply... there.

Sure, I could probably install Ruby on any machine I want it, but it's not just technical availability. Socially, Perl serves as a quite obvious Schelling point. I don't have to convince four other people to learn Ruby, because Perl is what everyone would gravitate to even in isolation, again because it's just... there.

(That said in recent years I've had to switch to Python for some things aimed at a younger audience. Oh well.)

Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by throwaway111555 on Thursday September 08, 2022 @07:04PM (#32773242)
AFAIR, Red Hat stopped including Perl by default since RHEL8 (
Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by sigzero on Thursday September 08, 2022 @10:21PM (#32774560)
RHEL 9.0 provides the following dynamic programming languages:

    Node.js 16
    Perl 5.32
    PHP 8.0
    Python 3.9
    Ruby 3.0
Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by int_19h on Thursday September 08, 2022 @10:25PM (#32774582)
Preinstalled?
Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by Toutouxc on Friday September 09, 2022 @04:43AM (#32776886)
Just a data point — Ruby, Perl and Python have all been deprecated [0] in macOS.

[0] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/macos-release-note...

Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by ARandomerDude on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:09PM (#32770497)
If it's not installed already, Ruby will be installed ASAP on any machine I use.
Re:Not Your Grandfather’s Perl by someRandoJunk on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:27PM (#32770765)
You're confusing perl with ruby there.