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Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by krono on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:30PM (#32755461)
Tangent but let's stop referring to it as a mere ad blocker, it's a content blocker - it's even a very useful and impactful accessibility tool in that capacity.

ADHD sucks and I have a lot to thank to these types of tools for acting as my "crutches" that allowed me get where I am today.

Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by notriddle on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:49PM (#32755750)
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as an ad blocker, is in fact, a content/ad blocker, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, a content plus ad blocker. Ad blockers are not an extension unto themselves, but rather another downloadable block list for a fully functioning user agent made useful by the extension, browser chrome, and vital web engine components comprising a full user agent content customization system, which, in this case, can be customized using the ABP blocklist syntax.

Many computer users run a modified version of a content blocker every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of the content blocker which is widely used today is often called an ad blocker, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically a generic content blocker with a particularly popular block list preloaded.

Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by LordDragonfang on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @04:47PM (#32756601)
Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by jasonhansel on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @05:15PM (#32757015)
100%. This is an a11y issue, not just about protecting privacy.
Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by plaguepilled on Thursday September 08, 2022 @12:59AM (#32761360)
Google profits off hurting neurodivergent people (think YouTube ads, recommended videos, etc) so this is sadly consistent with their business model.
Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by tpxl on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:01AM (#32762198)
Sorry, what? How are youtube ads hurting neurodivergent people in a way they don't hurt 'normal' people? If you can't handle youtube ads, don't go to youtube.
Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by plaguepilled on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:31AM (#32762448)
YouTube ads directly try to game the users attention. This is distinct from regular advertising (billboards et al) because your engagement directly and quickly affects what ads are served to you.

People who have particular sensitivity to attention changes ('attention deficit' might be a term for it, but there are other ways it can manifest) are going to be affected disproportionately by this, even if they don't disproportionately make up the revenue of the platform.

Because of the increased sensitivity, the disruption also has the potential to affect the neurodivergent user more destructively than the neurotypical one.

You can make the case that 'if you can't handle YouTube ads, don't go on YouTube', but then that runs counter to a lot of YouTube's content marketing and brand image. So if you take that stance, you then have to necessarily question the motives behind their other choices.

Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by tpxl on Thursday September 08, 2022 @03:57AM (#32762637)
> This is distinct from regular advertising (billboards et al) because your engagement directly and quickly affects what ads are served to you.

This is exactly the same as TV and radio ads have been for decades now. Which ad is served is not at all relevant.

> You can make the case that 'if you can't handle YouTube ads, don't go on YouTube', but then that runs counter to a lot of YouTube's content marketing and brand image. So if you take that stance, you then have to necessarily question the motives behind their other choices.

Take some damned personal responsibility. If something is causing you distress, stop doing it. Whether it's cigarettes, alcohol or youtube, it doesn't matter.

Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by plaguepilled on Thursday September 08, 2022 @05:22AM (#32763202)
>This is exactly the same as TV and radio ads have been for decades now. Which ad is served is not at all relevant

I'm sorry but that's just incorrect, and on top of that, you've fixated on the wrong point. The form does affect the impact on the users heavily, and can be observed by how long a given user spends looking at an ad vs how long a television ad holds someone's attention (if you doubt this, feel free to conduct an A/B test and find out for yourself). And the point I was making was that the way the ads are designed and delivered has a feedback loop MUCH more rapid than TV and radio ads, and the algorithms exploit that. Don't argue with a strawman.

>Take some damned personal responsibility. If something is causing you distress, stop doing it. Whether it's cigarettes, alcohol or youtube, it doesn't matter.

I'm not taking responsibility for anyone, sorry. I'm talking about a group of people, not myself. Regardless, this component of your reply was just plain silly. Please don't try to talk to people like that.

Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by krono on Thursday September 08, 2022 @06:54AM (#32763817)
> Take some damned personal responsibility

Get rid of that wheelchair, just walk like a normal person!

Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by anotherevan on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:02PM (#32759077)
I often refer to it as an HTML firewall - a security necessity.
Re:“UBO Minus (MV3)” – An Experimental uBlock Origin Build f... by ChemicalScum on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:32PM (#32755496)
No.