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Re:WikiHouse – Open source, modular, wood based, zero carbon... by tremon on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @09:50AM (#32750603)
The main strike against suburban lifestyles is that the maintenance cost per square meter (water, sewage, electrics, roads, communications) is much higher than the area generates in taxes.
Re:WikiHouse – Open source, modular, wood based, zero carbon... by criddell on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:16AM (#32750949)
I've heard that before and believe it to be true, but then it makes me wonder why cities are often so eager to annex suburban developments? If a suburb isn't paying it's fair share, why don't cities raise taxes or un-annex them? (is there a word for un-annex?)
Re:WikiHouse – Open source, modular, wood based, zero carbon... by adrianN on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @11:14AM (#32751736)
https://www.strongtowns.org/the-growth-ponzi-scheme/ Cities need to grow new developments to pay for the existing developments.
Re:WikiHouse – Open source, modular, wood based, zero carbon... by criddell on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @01:02PM (#32753218)
Presumably when the infrastructure needs to be replaced local governments will finance with bonds (which I think makes a lot of sense). If the bonds are paid for by suburban taxes, do you think the suburbs will get to be as expensive as the city or maybe even more expensive?

The Strong Towns ideology is attractive (especially for northern US cities), but I think if self driving cars come into existence, the ideas might not get very far in most places. Self driving cars are going to encourage sprawl like no other force ever has. I know I'd move further out if I had a self-driving car.

Re:WikiHouse – Open source, modular, wood based, zero carbon... by starkd on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @09:54AM (#32750670)
A lot of people don't like to live in cities.
Re:WikiHouse – Open source, modular, wood based, zero carbon... by nemo44x on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @12:17PM (#32752593)
You have to remember a lot of people on this site are young people without families that prioritize social lives. They haven't related yet that people with kids and careers, etc. are simply not interested in what cities have to offer and that the quality of life in a city is terrible if you have a family compared to what you can get outside of a city in a nice town. Unless you're really rich and can get a huge apartment or condo and can afford to pay for parking or have a driver, etc.

Just look at NYC to find the typical pattern: Young person lives with multiple people in an area like the Lower East Side or Williamsburg (yay social life!), then begins to settle down in a place like Park Slope (just married!) and has a kid (dedicated to urban living) and then another kid comes along and/or the reality of urban living (the schools are awful, it's cramped and expensive, the city offers you nearly nothing since you don't go out like you used to) and the brownstone is sold for a tidy profit and they're off to the NYC suburbs to get more space and a better quality of life to raise a family in. The city is a short commute away still.

Re:WikiHouse – Open source, modular, wood based, zero carbon... by MontyCarloHall on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @12:03PM (#32752419)
That’s a separate issue from suburbs’ environmental impact. I’m all for raising property taxes in suburbs to make their residents pay their fair share for infrastructure.