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Re:Sequoia Rings the Alarm Bell: Silicon Valley Is in Trouble by alex_c on Thursday October 09, 2008 @12:15AM (#327476)
Well, I missed out on Aerons the first time through. Maybe I'll find some cheap ones in half a year or so. :p
Re:Sequoia Rings the Alarm Bell: Silicon Valley Is in Trouble by SwellJoe on Thursday October 09, 2008 @01:38AM (#327531)
There is a whole economy surrounding Aerons. You can buy them used, at any time, for about $750-$800. That's not the bargain that they were during the dotcom bust (I bought mine for $365 plus auctioneers fees), but it's $350-$500 off of new retail, and well worth it. Steelcase leap chairs aint half bad either, and can be had slightly cheaper, though there seem to be a lot less of them on the market. Interestingly, I also bought a Keilhauer chair at the same auction where I bought the Aeron--it was $35 plus auctioneers fees, and it's a $900 chair new (and a very fine chair in its own right)...quality chairs that aren't Aerons are also available. I definitely don't suggest sitting in a crappy chair while you wait around to save $200 or $300. I wouldn't, anyway, and when we start hiring, we certainly won't make people sit in crappy chairs.
Re:Sequoia Rings the Alarm Bell: Silicon Valley Is in Trouble by alex_c on Thursday October 09, 2008 @11:37AM (#327912)
I'll have to try one of those someday.

I've been sitting on what looks like a cheap Aeron knockoff (~CAD$250 - http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=88,91,9...) for about 5 years now, and I'm very satisfied with it - especially compared to other chairs I've tried. I'm really curious if the Aeron is actually worth a 5x price tag compared to a chair I'm already happy with.

Re:Sequoia Rings the Alarm Bell: Silicon Valley Is in Trouble by Retric on Thursday October 09, 2008 @12:10PM (#327942)
Enter Canadian Postal Code

Can I get a link to that I can use in the US?

Edit: Or a Canadian Postal Code...

Re:Sequoia Rings the Alarm Bell: Silicon Valley Is in Trouble by alex_c on Thursday October 09, 2008 @01:36PM (#328046)
Argh. I don't know why e-commerce sites insist on doing that.

Here's the postal code for one of their own stores: M1H1A9.

I've tried finding a non-annoying link, but Google results for that chair's name show a slightly different picture (maybe a newer model).

Re:Sequoia Rings the Alarm Bell: Silicon Valley Is in Trouble by alecco on Thursday October 09, 2008 @12:54PM (#328003)
A new IKEA Markus chair for $200 (less in Europe) is more than fit for this. I'm sure there are other similar ones. Maybe not fancy looking but its mesh and back support are the best I've used (including Aerons.) Spending over 200 for a chair is perception only, IMHO. Or being pretentious.

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00103102

Re:Sequoia Rings the Alarm Bell: Silicon Valley Is in Trouble by SwellJoe on Thursday October 09, 2008 @05:48PM (#328310)
I'd be willing to try an IKEA chair. When we start hiring full-time people, I'll give my Aeron to the first hire, and sit in a Markus myself to see if it's up to snuff--if it is, that's wonderful. I'd love to save $600 per chair over used Aerons.

But, frankly, I'm suspicious. IKEA furniture is not exactly known for quality or longevity (though its quality is often equal to furniture costing several times more...a lot of furniture, even expensive furniture, is just made really horribly these days--I was astounded to note that relatively expensive places like Ethan Allen and Restoration Hardware are now selling MDF garbage just like Walmart and Target...people are often dumb enough to buy based on brand without any knowledge of what they're buying).

How long have you been sitting in this chair? I've got six or seven years of ass time in my Aeron, and it sits exactly the same as when I bought it (the foam lumbar support dingus did just give up the ghost a few weeks ago, so it's slightly the worse for wear--but, just like parts in a high quality electronic device, it's a replaceable component, and I always wanted the upgraded adjustable Y-shaped lumbar thing, anyway, so it's a mixed blessing...and, many people remove that part and sit in the chair with no additional lumbar support, anyway, so the chair is still perfectly functional and comfortable).