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Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by Swizec on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @10:49AM (#32737814)
> the substitutes seem unnecessarily unhealthy

As a meat eater, this has been my philosophy. If you’re gonna go vegetarian, just go for it. Vegeterian food is delicious and there’s so much choice! Entire cultures of amazing natively vegetarian foods with no need for weird meat substitutes.

Personally, legumes don’t have the right macros. Neither do fake meats. Cottage cheese and greek yogurt make better meat substitutes imo.

Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by coldpie on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:06AM (#32738082)
Eh, sometimes I want a burger and fries. Cottage cheese/yogurt burger doesn't sound so great to me.
Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by Swizec on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:15AM (#32738221)
Yeah so eat a burger and fries when it feels right :)

No need to go full vegetarian. No need to eat cows every day. Balance

Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by coldpie on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:22AM (#32738354)
But if the substitutes are good enough (some of them are now, imo), that seems like the best of both worlds.
Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by erikpukinskis on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:12AM (#32738174)
FWIW the vegetarian “whole food” version of a burger and fries is probably a falafel sandwich and fries.
Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by steve_adams_86 on Saturday September 10, 2022 @03:47PM (#32794034)
Do you mean they have the wrong macros for you personally or you personally believe the macros are bad in general?

Macros are an interesting thing. I’m far more interested in micros though, and various plants have them more than any animal foods. The balance of macros I get is reliably sufficient to stay healthy, I almost never need to think about it.

I suppose if you’re a body builder it might be appealing to eat animal products, but you can still swing it with plants.

Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by hombre_fatal on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:19AM (#32738306)
> As a meat eater, this has been my philosophy. If you’re gonna go vegetarian, just go for it.

I never understood this meme. What exactly is the philosophy? A philosophy of how others should partake in a lifestyle that you don’t?

It's odd enough to tell others what to prefer, but it's not clear what the impact of "As a meat eater" is supposed to have.

"As a straight man, my philosophy is if you're gonna be gay, just be gay this certain way." —It's nonsensical to me.

Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by Swizec on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:12PM (#32740042)
It means that when I have a vegetarian meal, I don’t look for fake meat. I just have a dish that was designed to be vegetarian.

The “as a meat eater” part signifies that I’m not vegetarian which seems like an important distinction in this context.

Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by reaperducer on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:23AM (#32738372)
A philosophy of how others should partake in a lifestyle that you don’t?

Sounds like how the vegan people at work would comment on other people's lunches.

Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by hombre_fatal on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @11:39AM (#32738624)
Well, I understand an unsolicited ethical prescription more than an unsolicited one of taste.

In other words, if you're telling people which foods to prefer, and you don't even have an ethical angle on it, what exactly are you doing?

Re:How sustainable are fake meats? by feet on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @10:57AM (#32737955)
Usually you need to combine multiple different beans and legumes with rice to get the right macros