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Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by thebooktocome on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:26PM (#32731992)
It’s possible to tell two stories in the same fictional world with opposing themes.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by tshaddox on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:12PM (#32732333)
It’s also possible to just make a neat show with good production values, solid acting talent, and lots of intrigue and spectacle. You can enjoy stuff so much more when you don’t convince yourself that you have some ownership of the fictional material or the material owes you something.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by ethbr0 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @12:01AM (#32732675)
People should try being happy rather than angry. It's more fun!
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by jbay808 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:24AM (#32733204)
The Tom Bombadil approach.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by wetpaws on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @12:40AM (#32732911)
Too bad it's not what we got.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by leereeves on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:31PM (#32732032)
Tolkien once wrote:

> You can make the Ring into an allegory of our own time, if you like: an allegory of the inevitable fate that waits for all attempts to defeat evil power by power.

If these writers are using Tolkien's name without respecting his beliefs, even Tolkien might have given the show a bad review.

Of course that's just speculation, but only a rare storyteller can tell an epic tale that isn't ultimately resolved by superior force. If this show can remain faithful to Tolkien's vision, I'll be very impressed.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by thebooktocome on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:44PM (#32732124)
I’m sure Boccaccio was similarly nonplussed when Shakespeare produced Romeo and Juliet.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by CamperBob2 on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:56PM (#32732213)
an allegory of the inevitable fate that waits for all attempts to defeat evil power by power

(Shrug) It seemed to work pretty well. The important part, both morally and practically, is how you treat your former adversary after defeating them.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Tagbert on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:41PM (#32732102)
What do you see as not respecting Tolkien’s name? The quote was "how far into evil will you go to do good?". that is a question, not an admonition. It sounds like they may explore that. If so, it would not be unreasonable to end up with the same “do no evil” answer as Tolkien.

Why should we give a bad review based on insufficient evidence?

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by jay_kyburz on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:56PM (#32732217)
A also think they are not directly related. I would think Tolkien is talking about Authoritarian Power of governments. i.e. don't vote Fascists into power.

When I hear how far into evil will somebody go, I think of an individuals choices to do evil for a perceived the greater good.

Kind of related, but not quite the same.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by leereeves on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:00PM (#32732244)
I don't agree, I think Tolkien was also talking about individual choices. Remember this bit?

> “What a pity Bilbo did not stab the vile creature, when he had a chance!

> Pity? It was Pity that stayed his hand. Pity, and Mercy: not to strike without need.

> I do not feel any pity for Gollum. He deserves death.

> Deserves death! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give that to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends.”

And it was that small individual mercy that ultimately saved the world.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Tagbert on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @12:46AM (#32732958)
and I think that Galadriel could make some choices that she later regrets and has to learn the lesson the hard way about doing evil. This is why I don't see that quote as being against any of Tolkien's principles.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by ekianjo on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:12PM (#32732330)
Not really if you dont even understand the theme of the underlying story and its moral aspects.