Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by smoldesu on Monday September 05, 2022 @09:53PM (#32731748)

Did you ever use IRC? I think about the conversations that went on in #freenode, and compared to the Discord servers I see today their discussions are absolutely sterile. "Off topic" channels in Discord servers tend to amount to rigorously moderated firehoses of memes and benign discourse, compared to IRC's loosely-attended miasma of porno, MTV music videos and 3-hour long conference talks. You might be able to argue that the signal:noise ratio improved over the years, but people's idea of netiquette certainly changed along with it.

Hell, don't take my word for it. Take a trip down the Linux emailing lists of the past few decades and compare them today. People would probably boycott Linux if kernel developers still fought like they did in the 90s...

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by UncleMeat on Monday September 05, 2022 @09:59PM (#32731806)

I don't really understand the relevance here. The claim above, as I understood it, was that older queer people would be more cautious around supporting actions taken against unsavory speech because they remember being viciously targeted via those same means and fear them being used against their community once again.

I'm saying that I have zero confidence in the state or broader society to actually hold consistent principles when it comes to the treatment of oppressed minorities and that defending KF won't help one iota if the state decides to attack gay people and that the older generation of gay people know this very deeply since their original oppression by the state was not done in accordance to it's supposed principles.

This has nothing to do with internet forums of the past being full of unmoderated noisy content.

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