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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by _-david-_ on Monday September 05, 2022 @08:02PM (#32730940)
Do you believe your ISP should be allowed to drop you if you say something they don't like? What about your phone company? We, as a society, already forcing companies to support content they don't endorse.
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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by BeefWellington on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:54PM (#32732628)
Those are bad examples; Telcos are almost universally heavily regulated and as such in many (most?) countries out there can't just refuse people service.

Cloudflare is doing neither here. This is closer to Subway banning you than your phone company; it's highly optional to do business with CF.

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by MisterBastahrd on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:07AM (#32733101)
Do you believe that Kiwi Farms should be able to set up shop in a restaurant and peddle their hateful shit?

What about an airline terminal?

We, as a society, are already denying individuals and organizations the right to disseminate information while using our private property when it doesn't align with our goals and beliefs.

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by curtainsforus on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @08:51AM (#32749887)
What about the site owner's water supply?

The disagreement here seems to over whether Cloudflare is more like a restaurant, or more like a utility company. Given the ubiquity of DDOS attacks online, (and the fact that KF seemingly can't stay online without DDOS mitigation), I think there's a good argument to be made that DDOS mitigation might be more like a utility.

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by MisterBastahrd on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:10PM (#32755085)
It's far closer to an insurance company than a utility. And either way, utilities aren't common carriers.
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