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Re:The Closed, Unfriendly World of Wikipedia by tptacek on Wednesday November 23, 2011 @10:52PM (#3272972)
Explain how so many dumb people can become so adept at navigating Wikipedia's processes in between shifts at the gas station and 17 hour Farmville jags, and I'll concede that you have a point.

Mediawiki, and Wikipedia's incarnation of it in particular, is outmoded and obtuse. But it's not hard to do things on Wikipedia. If anything, it's too f'ing easy.

Re:The Closed, Unfriendly World of Wikipedia by philwelch on Wednesday November 23, 2011 @11:02PM (#3272995)
I don't know why you're demanding that I explain a claim I never made and don't agree with.
Re:The Closed, Unfriendly World of Wikipedia by tptacek on Wednesday November 23, 2011 @11:08PM (#3273019)
I'm not communicating well. I'm saying, "sure, Wikipedia's UX is clunky, but it obviously does work".

You should read downthread; other people have taken a closer look at Danny Sullivan's real experience working with Wikipedia's processes. This isn't a good case study to make a stand on. Give it a few weeks; Wikipedia will inevitably do something genuinely dumb we can get outraged about. It appears not to have here.

Re:The Closed, Unfriendly World of Wikipedia by philwelch on Wednesday November 23, 2011 @11:22PM (#3273059)
That's just the old "success forgives everything" argument. It's a tempting argument, but that's also the primary mechanism by which success leads to failure. Wikipedia works, and is completely usable, by committed and dedicated nerds. Maybe even the dumb ones that work at the gas station.

Yeah, this guy was probably wrong, and this particular subject probably isn't notable. Wikipedia still could have given this guy a better experience in the process of figuring this out, and writing this guy off as worthless and not worth listening to is just arrogant and unproductive.