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Re:All poverty is energy poverty by WalterBright on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:26PM (#32728265)
> Even if you never used wind, solar, nuclear, hydro, etc. then you’d still be ahead in the BEV case.

Yes, but not by much.

A coal power plant averages 33% efficiency. Gas is 42%. Source: google

> Neither of which have tailpipe emissions in populated areas unlike ICE.

CO2 doesn't care where it's emitted.

> But we do also use wind, solar, nuclear etc as power sources for BEV.

And nowhere near the power needed if everyone switched to EVs.

Re:All poverty is energy poverty by onlyrealcuzzo on Monday September 05, 2022 @04:48PM (#32729252)
> And nowhere near the power needed if everyone switched to EVs.

This is pointless argument. We don't have enough EVs for everyone to switch to EVs.

It looks like the bottleneck will be EV production, not wind & solar adoption.

We only need to quadruple solar panels in the US to provide all electricity necessary for ALL cars to switch to EVs...

This looks like it'll happen within 10 years. We won't be 100% on EVs in 20 years.

Re:All poverty is energy poverty by CraigJPerry on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:50PM (#32728577)
>> CO2 doesn't care where it's emitted

Disease rates (e.g. asthma) in the population do though

>> And nowhere near the power needed if everyone switched to EVs

You’re saying that if demand for electricity goes up, it won’t be met? Why?

Re:All poverty is energy poverty by WalterBright on Monday September 05, 2022 @09:30PM (#32731563)
Is asthma affected by CO2?

> You’re saying that if demand for electricity goes up, it won’t be met?

Yes.

> Why?

Because government does not price things based on supply&demand. Therefore, you get shortages (rolling blackouts).

Re:All poverty is energy poverty by CraigJPerry on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:14AM (#32733951)
Tailpipe emissions are far more harmful than only CO2 - which i suspect you know. I’m beginning to think you’re arguing in bad faith here