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Re:All poverty is energy poverty by aidenn0 on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:00PM (#32727924)
And you're going to get around 80% from your EV after round trip through a battery. EVs powered by oil power plants is not a good use of energy.

Fortunately, that's not what we are doing. I just wish EV proponents would stop pretending it is.

Is there a term for a self-inflicted straw-man?

Re:All poverty is energy poverty by CraigJPerry on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:59PM (#32728719)
>> around 80% from your EV after round trip through a battery

I didn't follow this part, there’s an energy loss in the process of charging the battery and there’s a loss in the process of converting from dc battery to ac traction motor, but it’s well shy of 20%. The high amperage involved in both charging and discharging mean losses are low (because if they were high, you’d generate so much heat as to make the system unusable)

>> EVs powered by oil power plants is not a good use of energy

It’s a huge step forward from ICE. You’ve cut disease rates in the population by moving tail pipe emissions away from population centres. You’ve swapped a circa 30% efficient process for a circa 40%-60% efficient process. Not to mention the emissions benefits of LNG over Gasoline or diesel.

Re:All poverty is energy poverty by WalterBright on Monday September 05, 2022 @09:31PM (#32731576)
It is not a 40-50% process. Coal plants run around 33%.
Re:All poverty is energy poverty by CraigJPerry on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:17AM (#32733987)
Power supplied is a blend of coal, oil, gas, nuclear, renewables and some other smaller sources.

40-50% is a conservatively low number.