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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by throwayyy479087 on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:29PM (#32727546)
Freedom of speech for speech you hate is also a social principle - see the ACLU Klan cases.

Principles aren't supposed to be easy to keep, otherwise they're hobbies.

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by squeaky-clean on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:21PM (#32728198)
Freedom of Speech also means Cloudflare doesn't have to host anyone it doesn't want to.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by dmix on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:37PM (#32728406)
Freedom of speech is a cultural value, it's not something strictly defined by the US constitution. It's the reason there is a constitution not the other way around.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by squeaky-clean on Monday September 05, 2022 @04:23PM (#32729007)
There's a lot of incorrect things in this, but to address the incorrect thing most relevant to this discussion:

What you are asking for is called compelled speech. If what you think "free speech" is were true, the government could force newspapers and online news websites to publish articles written by the government that they do not agree with.

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by bioemerl on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:45PM (#32727734)
I don't understand how anyone reading someone saying something like this doesn't immediately picture some government organization with an authoritarian leader holding the exact same value while considering dissenters a harm to their society.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by phillipcarter on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:19PM (#32729611)
Considering DDoS is illegal where I live, no, nobody has the right to do that here! What does that have to do with Kiwi Farms?
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by phillipcarter on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:17PM (#32728145)
I agree! KF is expressing their speech just as freely as they did before. But less of society is choosing to support that speech. What do you see wrong with that?
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by UncleMeat on Monday September 05, 2022 @08:08PM (#32730973)
The ACLU also protected racial minorities and queer groups. The "free speech absolutists" who come out in force to protect organizations like KF rarely do that.