Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard terminates service

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by superb-owl on Monday September 05, 2022 @01:48PM (#32727058)

Freedom of speech, famously, doesn't give you the right to shout "fire" in a crowded movie theater [1]. It also doesn't give you the right to target, stalk, and harass people.

The question to me isn't why did it take Cloudflare so long to make this decision. The question is why hadn't governments stepped in and _forced_ Cloudflare to take action, given the illegal activity taking place on the site.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_the...

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by Rebelgecko on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:06PM (#32727248)

Except you do have the right to shout "Fire" at a crowded theater, at least in the US. The original Supreme Court case (about criticism of the draft) was, IMO, a miscarriage of justice. Fortunately it was overturned a few decades later.

To stretch the metaphor (which was a throwaway comment in a brief, not a formal supreme court opinion about fire safety), you can shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater. What you can't do is lead a mob to a theater and tell them to set it on fire.

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