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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by raxxorraxor on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:56AM (#32725016)
In the US the government just ask corporations to censor content and they comply. Activists will spout their usual XKCD-interpretations of free speech, which is legally correct, but heavily fails to see the larger picture.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by Bakary on Monday September 05, 2022 @05:06PM (#32729482)
There's an even larger picture than this, which is that the argumentation around speech is gamed by people who have no interest in preserving it overall.

What truly matters is which speech ends up being successful and adopted in the broader society. This is why the focus is placed on the availability of platforms rather than the presence of free speech on its own. The argument is never just to let people speak without arrest or restraint, but to let them speak AND give them access to a convenient platform that will help their speech be more successful. The next step is to force platforms to host them and give them an algorithmic pipeline of views.

If freedom of speech is the key ingredient on its own, why is the US on an steeper authoritarian slide compared to the rest of the West despite more robust speech protections? Largely because authoritarian elements there are extremely adept at using speech rules for their own ends, and will then be able to discard most freedoms of any type once they solidify their grip on the institutions.

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by shadowgovt on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:56AM (#32725740)
The internet was founded on very laissez-faire speech attitudes. We've been living the larger picture for decades; it's how we got where we are.

Does the old laissez-faire approach continue to work when more than half the living population is online?