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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by raxxorraxor on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:53AM (#32724976)
They also provide a good counter to propaganda. You don't have to believe you get Covid chipped or in evil lizard people to see serious and concerning displays of media propaganda. And yes, it is US corporations in cooperation with government far more than the Russians on the English speaking net. There is just as much propaganda in Russia in Russian of course.

It is just the usual type of propaganda and works even more effectively as it did in the past.

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by kelnos on Monday September 05, 2022 @02:06PM (#32727243)
I think there are much better ways to counter propaganda than running a site that doxxes people you don't like and harasses them to the point they commit suicide. We should not enable folks like this.

If these are the only sorts of people who can counter propaganda, then perhaps we deserve the propaganda.

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by raxxorraxor on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:19AM (#32734000)
It isn't about this site in particular. These are people that make fun of others, there is no deeper "service" the platform provides, no particular insights to be gained. It is morally questionable endeavor to stay diplomatic and I hope users can learn to moderate themselves.

The real problem is that a pretext to remove a platform is very easily found. I am not convinced there was any immediate threat here and if so it could have been posted by anyone, even activists themselves. This would not be a precedent since this has happened numerous times already. Cloudflare now is part of the problem the same way companies that pay ransoms to phishers are.

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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by concordDance on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @10:34AM (#32737632)
Note that "the site" doesn't do this. Some of their users may do so and may or may not (I couldn't dig very deep before it went down) organise via the site.
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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by pas on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @05:02PM (#32743177)
the counter to propaganda is thoughtful, deep investigation of the matter at hand, getting at least some minimal subject matter expertise and getting the opinion of experts, etc. (nowadays this has the fancy name of epistemological rationalism)

KF is at best more/different propaganda against the mainstream propaganda

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