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Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by sgarland on Monday September 05, 2022 @10:37AM (#32724783)
> the driving-people-to-suicide thing is a lie.

Here's a former FBI Asst. Dir. asserting that they do [0] (archive link in case it's removed [1]). I'll grant you that the government can and has lied, but all of this seems a lot like one side full of tremendously shitty people saying they're not guilty, and the other side saying the opposite. In the absence of definitive proof, I'll go with character.

[0] https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/15664385387652792...

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220905075857/https://twitter.c...

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by _dain_ on Monday September 05, 2022 @01:32PM (#32726866)
He's just repeating what he read on wikipedia. I really doubt he looked closely into the matter.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by Kiro on Monday September 05, 2022 @03:45PM (#32728505)
Why are you defending KF so hard? Even in the thread on the Cloudflare issue itself I saw the N-word, transphobic and antisemitic slurs, and calls to doxx the CEO... and that was just the first page.
Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by _dain_ on Monday September 05, 2022 @04:04PM (#32728781)
because literally none of that justifies a ddos attack or censorship. hurting people's feelings is not a crime.

I defend kiwifarms because it's funny and it's one of the last bastions of free speech on the internet.

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by Kiro on Monday September 05, 2022 @04:17PM (#32728948)
Still doesn't explain why. You're not defending free speech in general, you're actively defending KF itself.

Also, cute edit. Would make a perfect reply to yourself.

Oh, another edit. Well, ok then. You think it's "funny" with racism, antisemitism, transphobia and doxxing/harassing people. Case closed.

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by _dain_ on Monday September 05, 2022 @04:23PM (#32729004)
yeah. it is funny. I defend it on the merits: Kiwifarms is a funny site and it deserves to exist. you're just pointing and sputtering, as if I'm saying something obviously preposterous, but I'm not.

the idea that a website ought to be completely erased from the internet just because people on it say mean things is a very new idea, and one that I haven't been convinced by.

if you don't like it, just don't visit.

Re:Kiwi Farms is down across all domains as DDoS-Guard termi... by nullc on Monday September 05, 2022 @07:22PM (#32730670)
I'm not the poster, but perhaps you've seen https://xkcd.com/386/ -- that's really the only explanation you need for this sort of thing.