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Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by notch656a on Sunday September 04, 2022 @04:06PM (#32717168)
>It's amazing the degree to which people are fine treating their fellow humans as means towards an end.

I could make that exact statement about those wanting to restrict the video. They want the end result of the video being unshared, and they're willing to discard the freedom of speech rights of other humans in their efforts.

Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by RavingGoat on Sunday September 04, 2022 @06:45PM (#32718473)
Free speech is not guaranteed if it harms others.
Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by dmatech on Sunday September 04, 2022 @09:49PM (#32719656)
In the case of the Christchurch video, the harm has already been done. One could argue that sharing the video creates demand for more shooting videos (as is argued with CSAM), but the USA considers this to be protected for whatever reason (unlike CSAM or obscenity).
Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by notch656a on Sunday September 04, 2022 @10:03PM (#32719721)
I question whether mere possession of CSAM without any personal proximity to abuse isn't the digital version of allowing police an easy way to plant weed. It (the planting of this evidence) seems like way too convenient of a way to prosecute any political enemies, other disfavored groups, etc. And there's no one to cross-examine, except the policeman who potentially planted it themselves. IMO until police corruption is sorted out, these kind of prosecutions should require accusations or confirmation from the abused that the person in question actually was involved in the abuse.

In fact, this may be one of the reason why the founders were free speech 'extremists.' If merely _owning_ some information that is easily plantable is illegal, it is trivial to frame someone.