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Re:Some things to learn from the British East India Company'... by notacoward on Sunday September 04, 2022 @11:20AM (#32714000)
> Corporations and governments are 2 totally different things

Are they, though? There are points well short of fascism where they exhibit significant similarity and cooperation. The idea of government as the remedy to every problem created by corporations is as overly simplistic as the idea of government ruining everything that corporations create. Either can be oppressive. Either can be beneficial. Some level of cooperation between the two can even be a good thing, as e.g. when corporations were first created to do things that were too expensive for one and too risky for the other. The similarities between organizations of similar size - also including churches, universities, and so on - overwhelm their differences. I would say corporations and governments are two wings of the same bird, and should remain that way, if the body in between is to be a healthy economy as part of a healthy society.

P.S. Yes, I'm well aware that the two exist for different purposes and answer to different kinds of authority. Don't even bother. The point is that their structure, behavior, and actual effect on society are not so dissimilar as you make them out to be.

Re:Some things to learn from the British East India Company'... by verisimi on Sunday September 04, 2022 @12:49PM (#32714993)
I think you missed the /s at the end of my comment! We agree, they are similar - but disagree where you say things should remain that way. They should not.

From my perspective, there is no moral foundation for the existence of any governance system, except self-governance. Governance should NOT have a monopoly on force, they cannot legalise taxation, or the initiation of attacks on individuals, or license people/businesses, etc. These actions are possible on account of governmental force (in the form of police and military) it is not a moral right.

Re:Some things to learn from the British East India Company'... by notacoward on Sunday September 04, 2022 @01:32PM (#32715481)
> there is no moral foundation for the existence of any governance system, except self-governance

"Self governance" is just another word for anarchy, which leads inevitably (and often quickly) back into autocracy. No thanks. Not even worth engaging with further.

Re:Some things to learn from the British East India Company'... by verisimi on Sunday September 04, 2022 @04:08PM (#32717176)
The options are anarchy (or accepting personal responsibility for one's life) or immoral governance by force; aka slavery (to those who are able to take personal responsibility); aka pretending it is possible to abdicate one's personal rights to some ficticious entity called government. Self governance is really just the start of one's life as an adult.
Re:Some things to learn from the British East India Company'... by exBarrelSpoiler on Sunday September 04, 2022 @05:00PM (#32717681)
Isn’t recognizing one’s limits and dependence on others also part of becoming an adult?
Re:Some things to learn from the British East India Company'... by mbrodersen on Monday September 05, 2022 @04:31AM (#32721865)
Either somebody has a monopoly on force or you have a failed state/anarchy.