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Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by xwdv on Saturday September 03, 2022 @10:44PM (#32709250)
The fact that no US Citizens in Japan had been reported dead by the government in the time period that Near supposedly killed himself pretty much tells me it’s probably a hoax.

However, I do hope it was not a hoax, and not because I want him dead, but because I am not looking forward to the era where people commit fake “suicides” as the ultimate way to bring attention to a cause or argument, or just as a way to “win” and get the last word. It’s the climax of clout chasing IMO. But it takes away from people who actually do commit suicide and minimizes their tragedies, as our first instinct will eventually be to assume all suicides are fake.

We have not crossed that line yet as a society, but I fear someday we will. Already I doubt anyone has actually killed themselves because of KF.

Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by Jiro on Sunday September 04, 2022 @03:07AM (#32710624)
This is misleading.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-tra...

If you look at this, yes, no deaths are shown for the date of Near's death. But if you actually pay attention, no deaths are shown anywhere past May 2021.

On and before May 2021, the death rate is about one per month. It's pretty much impossible that just by chance there would be seven consecutive months with no deaths; the reasonable conclusion is that the death listings are not in fact complete and that anyone who died after May 2021 just isn't listed.

Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by richbell on Sunday September 04, 2022 @08:03AM (#32712146)
> On and before May 2021, the death rate is about one per month. It's pretty much impossible that just by chance there would be seven consecutive months with no deaths

That's possible, but it's worth pointing out that only unnatural deaths are cataloged. This does not include deaths by a natural cause.

Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by Jiro on Sunday September 04, 2022 @12:05PM (#32714452)
The one per month rate that I'm comparing it to is the previous months of the same list, and also includes only unnatural deaths.
Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by xwdv on Sunday September 04, 2022 @12:32PM (#32714772)
It is difficult to die unnaturally in Japan, and given the small number of US Citizens living there, it is certainly possible to have long periods of no unnatural death.
Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by Jiro on Sunday September 04, 2022 @08:47PM (#32719279)
By that reasoning there shouldn't be a death per month in the previous years. But there was. Going from that to nothing is a drastic change and rather improbable.
Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by xwdv on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:12AM (#32725216)
Correlation does not equal causation.
Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by howinteresting on Saturday September 03, 2022 @11:21PM (#32709481)
There are many trans people who have been terrorized by KF, had their partners and parents harassed and so on. I'm not going to link their Twitter threads because plenty of people in this thread openly admit to being KF users.

edit to respond to xwdv below: Unlike you, I care about trans people and their loved ones being terrorized.

Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by xwdv on Saturday September 03, 2022 @11:56PM (#32709675)
I don’t care if they’ve been terrorized what I’m saying is I don’t want people faking suicides as the next attention grabbing strategy, and as a way to wrongfully throw blood on other people’s hands. Just do not cross that line. Deaths are one of the few things that people still somewhat respect online.