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Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by noasaservice on Saturday September 03, 2022 @10:29PM (#32709170)
That's easy. Are they calling for illegal actions against people?

That's a pretty easy litmus test.

As a colloary, it's akin to comparing "I don't like the president" vs "Let's go kill the president" (this is a comparison of allowed vs unallowed speech in the USA, not a call to).

Advocating voting against is 100% legal. Advocation of killing is 100% ILLEGAL.

Kiwifarms was doing the latter, up to and including actions threatening violence, "assisted" suicide, and murder.

Those were never 1fa protected actions.

Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by oldgradstudent on Sunday September 04, 2022 @03:57AM (#32710882)
> That's a pretty easy litmus test.

Then a proceeding in open court will be simple and fast.

A proceeding where the accused has the right to cross examine and present evidence in their defense.

I prefer that to a corporate decision done in secrecy in response to bad PR.

Re:Blocking Kiwifarms by Spivak on Sunday September 04, 2022 @09:15AM (#32712696)
Same, there’s no contradiction here. The same political group that is pressuring the companies that currently hold the real power to take down this hate is also pushing for a national hate speech law.

Where I’m sure the disagreement lies is whether or not you find it morally okay to protect the current victims by less than ideal means.