At least one accessory to attempted murder, at least:

https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/2022-alleged-kiwi-...

As I asked previously, there is any indication of kiwifarms involvement? there's nothing in that link pointing to it, aside from someone calling in to say they are a specific user in the forum, which lets be honest here it's madness to think is relevant.

I looked into KF as this was all breaking last week. I don’t have any links as they’re no longer accessible, so take what I say as you will.

When I went on, on the forum’s official home page put front and center there was a link to a post written by an admin/moderator (which was also pinned by moderators) doxxing some trans woman with her address and last known location and the need to bring her to “justice”, whatever that meant.

Frankly it was appalling and I felt like from that one post alone (there were hundreds of posts) I had seen enough

I mean, surely those things would be archived no?

Trying to make sense of this whole thing just makes me feel like i'm going mad, everyone supposedly knows that is common sense that they are guilty of several swattings, harassment, etc, but not a single person can show anything even close to resembling action, or even non-absurd obvious joke threats, while the archives do show rules against it(for whatever that's worth) and reportedly even by the detractors those threats had been deleted. How can something gain this much notoriety, show up in so many articles being blamed for those things and not a single source can give something backing it up that isn't wild speculation?

Sure they doxed people but I can think off the top of my head half a dozen other places that do that quite regularly, couple that are dedicated to it.

Maybe I should just stop trying to make sense of it at this point and go to bed.

The same thing happened with 8chan, and has certainly happened with other sites/organizations/etc. It's easy to run a smear campaign against a group that "everyone knows" is evil, no need to even provide evidence.

You could have seen the evidence if you had started caring when they were harassing trans people.

> Sure they doxed people but I can think off the top of my head half a dozen other places that do that quite regularly, couple that are dedicated to it.

So you know where crimes are currently being committed? Have you reported them to the authorities?

That happened before they made the original response, though. It's definitely not that.

Yes, as noted in the post if you read to the end, I am very concerned about that.

So all it takes is for a malicious actor to engage in false flag operations against me and CF will completely walk back their abuse policies and terminate my services, even if I act the best I can to moderate and remove the offending content? I'm not saying what happened on Kiwi Farms was a false flag because I don't know that, but neither do you. It's hard to process just how antithetical your actions today are compared to your words 3 days ago.

Even if it wasn't a false flag, moderators deleted the offending posts.

Excellent; since you're concerned about it, it should be quite easy to provide that evidence, right? Personally, I would settle for quotes with private information redacted (usually I'd ask for archive.org copies or such, but in the case of doxxing I agree that's not ideal).

> it should be quite easy to provide that evidence, right?

No. The post alludes to active investigations concerning, among other things, bomb threats. One doesn’t air evidence in that situation.

Hmm... Why not, exactly?

If I'm investigating you over a bomb threat I'm not going to tell you beforehand so you erase any evidence.

People have already found and reposted the bomb threat posts, so that argument makes zero sense.

Why national security of course.

That's fair, actually; if that is the case then I very much hope to see a post in the near future explaining what happened as soon as it's no longer an active matter for the police.

So, can we get any details on what was actually said on the forum rather than just "escalating threats"?

From what I heard there was a false flag bomb threat

For reference sake, here’s the post:

> Just rang up a couple of lads down in Belfast and asked them to plant bombs in all of those places. also, 3 armed men will be at each place, waiting.

Seems to have been moderated/scrubbed from the keffals thread but I do see replies referencing it.

The post was screenshotted and posted to Twitter almost instantly and it seems that the post itself was quickly moderated and the user banned.

Seems like a straw that broke the camel’s back situation, but it’s very odd how CloudFlare is talking about “moderation” when it seems as though KiwiFarms quickly took care of moderating it themselves.

And fwiw, I had no idea what KiwiFarms was before this week.

If true, an ingenious way to de-cloudflare someone, which will be used many times again.

It has to be done in conjunction with protests by a politically protected group

Whatever do you mean, an imminent threat to life is an imminent threat to life. Say, does Hacker News use Cloudflare?

I wouldn't give the trolls trading screenshots too much credit here. I assume Cloudflare is a little more savvy than that.

I don't.

Nothing new for KF. What is new is the attention is now on Cloudflare

I know you are concerned, or at least that you wrote that you were concerned, but given that it is a real concern why do it then, what do you accomplish? whatever threat that was supposedly being organized will still come to fruition, no?