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Re:Is the psychedelic therapy bubble about to burst? by mattgreenrocks on Saturday September 03, 2022 @08:48AM (#32701354)
I don’t take psychedelics. But I’m convinced meditation and exercise can re-wire your brain.

Meditation trains the mind to learn to see when it is falling into maladaptive grooves. It doesn’t prevent it, just a raises awareness. Exercise for me seems to shift the baseline mood forward a bit. Kind of feels like my hormones are in the right place after 25 years.

Re:Is the psychedelic therapy bubble about to burst? by elevaet on Saturday September 03, 2022 @10:17AM (#32702066)
As someone who's taken plenty of psychedelics, done lots of meditation, and gets tons of exercise, I'd agree that they can all re-wire your brain.

Psychedelics are very different from the other two tho, just like exercise is very different from meditation.

They are all very worthwhile and can help you grow.

Meditation and exercise are best practiced regularly. Psychedelics are best used for singular cathartic events, saved for special occasions.

Psychedelics can change your outlook overnight, while meditation is a more gradual process. Excercise won't really change your outlook palpably, it will just keep you in a better head and body space.

They all can be difficult and rewarding. Its possible to harm yourself with any of them, but generally you come out well ahead if you do them responsibly. They can all make you a better person.

Re:Is the psychedelic therapy bubble about to burst? by alecbz on Saturday September 03, 2022 @11:30AM (#32702797)
I think exercise is closer to improving hormonal balances than really “rewiring” your brain, but for sure I notice that it can help a bit. Maybe it does have some “rewiring” effects.

I do think meditation rewires your brain in a way that’s similar to psychedelics (there’s common themes you experience with both, like ego death), but I think it just takes much longer to achieve similar effects. I’d meditated daily for close to a year straight, and while it helped, I didn’t feel like I got anywhere close to how I felt either during tripping (kinda obviously maybe) or after tripping.

That said, while so far psychedelics seem safe, they’re at the very least more logistically “disruptive” than meditation, not to mention social stigmas, difficulty getting them, etc. Meditation does seem like a more sustainable long-term practice.

Some of the above is why I’ve become interested in trying ketamine therapy instead.

Re:Is the psychedelic therapy bubble about to burst? by endorphine on Saturday September 03, 2022 @12:29PM (#32703455)
Did you stop meditating after a year? If so, why?

I tried to stick to it but I find it kinda hard to.

Re:Is the psychedelic therapy bubble about to burst? by alecbz on Sunday September 04, 2022 @12:13AM (#32709757)
I’ve meditated on and off for the past 6ish years. I never really consciously choose to stop, it’s just a habit I tend to lose and regain often.
Re:Is the psychedelic therapy bubble about to burst? by workshirt on Saturday September 03, 2022 @05:10PM (#32706108)
Hormones are kind of the wires in the “rewiring the brain” analogy.
Re:Is the psychedelic therapy bubble about to burst? by alecbz on Sunday September 04, 2022 @12:12AM (#32709747)
Not well versed enough in neurology, but I thought the “wiring” generally referred to which neural pathways are likely to be triggered, which I think is different than just changes in hormones?
Re:Is the psychedelic therapy bubble about to burst? by kekebo on Saturday September 03, 2022 @10:10AM (#32702014)
I agree, learning to direct focus can shine valuable light onto (often unreflected) self-narrative processing.

Exercise never yielded the benefits I sometimes saw in studies for me but every time I manage to motivate myself to do the healthy/sane/right thing against inner resistance, it leads to a small boost in self-respect that accumulates over time.