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Re:John A Phillips by topynate on Friday September 02, 2022 @04:52AM (#32688339)
I imagine that between the '40s and '70s many of the really hard problems became a lot easier. E.g. using solid-state electronics for the timing, modelling shaped charges as a textbook exercise rather than a research problem, etc. What surprises me is that he managed to get a dirt-cheap initiator.
Re:John A Phillips by manholio on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:03AM (#32688427)
Maybe he designed a geometry that can achieve the required implosion speeds with slow, easily available explosives ex. AN, KN, AP etc. The size of the device (a container) seems to suggest this.

The actual initiation is the easy part and would have been easy in the 70s, exploding wires that are subjected to a number of kilo Ameperes by some kind of avalanche, solid state switch.

Re:John A Phillips by topynate on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:08AM (#32688468)
I meant a modulated neutron initiator, not the explosive detonator. India was still using vapour deposition of polonium to make theirs, around the same time. I'm no engineer but that sounds like it costs a lot more than $2000.
Re:John A Phillips by Xx25 on Friday September 02, 2022 @06:16AM (#32688926)
HN never ceases to surprise! I am really curious how you happen to know such details about India's nuclear bomb.
Re:John A Phillips by danbruc on Friday September 02, 2022 @06:38AM (#32689044)
Re:John A Phillips by atemerev on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:08AM (#32688470)
The cheap initiator is a solved problem since 1989.
Re:John A Phillips by topynate on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:11AM (#32688487)
Yeah, we've got better at making neutrons since 1970. Mostly this is a good thing!
Re:John A Phillips by thombat on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:22AM (#32688583)
Since his design dates from 1976, you reckon it would be cheaper now?
Re:John A Phillips by alfiedotwtf on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:34AM (#32688672)
> using solid-state electronics for the timing

Curious... is timing actually that big of a deal when you've already got critical mass? What would happen if you just dropped one half critical mass from 1m above to the other half?

Re:John A Phillips by MertsA on Friday September 02, 2022 @07:01AM (#32689193)
With an implosion type bomb you need to make sure that the shockwave from the explosives hits the plutonium pit all around it almost simultaneously. If there was a portion where the explosive shockwave was delayed then the forces on the rest of the pit are going to tend to "squish" it out towards the portion where the explosion hasn't hit it yet. This asymmetrical compression means now you don't get the ideal compressed sphere so now while it's still going to reach criticality, it's going to be blasted apart with much less of the fissile material being fissioned. A great real world example of why timing is so critical is the first North Korean nuclear bomb test.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North_Korean_nuclear_test...

They had a yield of less than a kiloton. Obviously way greater than conventional explosives but it should have been an order of magnitude more powerful.

In order for the explosives to form that crucial explosive lense you need detonation across numerous points on the outside simultaneously so you need a detonator that's extremely consistent on timing so a simple resistive detonator with some primary explosives packed around a filament is not going to be effective. The method of choice is an exploding bridgewire design. Basically you have a thin wire and you pass enough current through it to vaporize the wire so quickly that the wire itself generates the initial shockwave as it gets turned into plasma. The rest of the explosive lense is just two different types of explosive with different propagation velocities. The two are combined with a parabolic (or hyperbolic, I forget off the top of my head) face between the two layers so that the explosion that started from a single point goes from convex to concave so it hits the outside of the pit all at the same time.

If you simply dropped a half-critical mass onto another and it was prompt critical then yes, it would explode, but with not nearly as much energy being released as a proper nuclear weapon.

Re:John A Phillips by alfiedotwtf on Friday September 02, 2022 @09:04PM (#32697522)
Excellent, thanks for that detailed explanation!
Re:John A Phillips by smilespray on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:37AM (#32688691)
It would preignite and fizzle. No nuclear yield, but a pile of radioactive stuff.
Re:John A Phillips by alfiedotwtf on Friday September 02, 2022 @06:15AM (#32688921)
ah, ok thanks for that.

Even though OP had their research taken away, I wonder how long it will be before you could simply ask GPT-3 how to make a nuke for under $2k