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Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by unmole on Friday September 02, 2022 @12:47AM (#32686705)
> Brexit refugee

Hard cringe.

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by bowsamic on Friday September 02, 2022 @03:12AM (#32687581)
EDIT: shitter news won't let me post a reply so I will just delete my comment
Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by unmole on Friday September 02, 2022 @03:44AM (#32687825)
> Why is that cringe?

Because words have meanings:

refugee

/rɛfjʊˈdʒiː/

noun

a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.

Claiming to be a Brexit refugee when there are millions of actual refugees in Europe is cringey to say the least.

> Supposedly the economy is going to be downgraded from a developed economy to an "emerging market economy".

Anyone claiming that has no right to be taken seriously.

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by somewhereoutth on Friday September 02, 2022 @06:51PM (#32696615)
Well I'm watching (from afar) the place I was born and grew up in, the place I call home, burning to the ground. All the good things we stood for - tolerance, pragmatism, good humour, reputation, confidence, common decency, are being lost. All the time the news gets worse - strikes everywhere, shortages, NHS collapsing, people will have to choose between heating and eating this winter. Portugal seems like a well run paradise in comparison.

It is a man made disaster, and I left to escape it.

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by ssizn on Friday September 02, 2022 @03:55AM (#32687910)
>Many thousands are going to freeze to death in their homes this Christmas.

Unlike in Europe. Oh wait.

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by Tade0 on Friday September 02, 2022 @04:37AM (#32688220)
Every time this topic is touched I learn something new about the standard of comfort that western Europe enjoys.

I've been told that in Germany the gas-saving measures will make people turn down their temperature during winter to 20-21°C from the, supposedly, standard 24-25°C.

But that can't be right, can it?

When I lived in Italy we had below 20°C during winter because the wooden windows from the 70s not replaced since then due to various, not strictly financial reasons, didn't provide much insulation.

Over here in eastern Europe it was always "18°C and put a sweater on".

Re:The Portuguese can no longer afford to live in Portugal by leg100 on Friday September 02, 2022 @05:47AM (#32688747)
I'd be careful with these ideas of countries being generally wealthy these days. Germany and the UK as with elsewhere has a large minority who could only dream of such temperatures in the middle of winter in their home. Many will go without heating as they have done in previous winters. Standard of comfort is highly variable within countries.

But yes, generally speaking, people have got used to setting the thermostat higher.