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Re:SmartDry’s useful laundry sensor to be cloud-bricked next... by selcuka on Thursday September 01, 2022 @08:01PM (#32684987)
You can't force someone to open up their intellectual property. The company might have wound down but the IP still belongs to someone.
Re:SmartDry’s useful laundry sensor to be cloud-bricked next... by voisin on Thursday September 01, 2022 @08:08PM (#32685039)
Easy: legislate an implied obligation for ongoing support of past sales for a reasonable period of time and as part of wind down that obligation is a liability that must be discharged with posted credit of some sort (or the purchaser would have to take this liability on) or via open sourcing the software.
Re:SmartDry’s useful laundry sensor to be cloud-bricked next... by selcuka on Thursday September 01, 2022 @08:17PM (#32685094)
Fair point. That's called a warranty, and they should have been legally required to support their product until the end of warranty period. Posting a notice on their website in June and shutting down the servers in September is a jerk move.

My point still stands though. They can't force them to open up their trade secrets.

Re:SmartDry’s useful laundry sensor to be cloud-bricked next... by Teever on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:13PM (#32685465)
Are you sure about that?

If the government can make a law that says someone can't sell a particular product (Like say, children's toys with razor blades in them) why can't the government pass a law that says that if a company sells a particular catagory of product then the company must open the product up if they discontinue the product or go out of business?

Re:SmartDry’s useful laundry sensor to be cloud-bricked next... by gaganyaan on Thursday September 01, 2022 @10:17PM (#32685845)
All laws are social contracts. Of course they could force them to open up their trade secrets. It wouldn't even to be something extreme, Congress could just pass a law saying "discontinuing a commercial product requires publishing everything needed to maintain that product", and that would be that.
Re:SmartDry’s useful laundry sensor to be cloud-bricked next... by JadeNB on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:21PM (#32685519)
> You can't force someone to open up their intellectual property. The company might have wound down but the IP still belongs to someone.

You can't, but governments can. There are laws that protect IP; those laws could be modified to say that, if you decide to stop supporting a product that relies on your IP, then you must provide the means for individual users to support it themselves. That doesn't even have to mean giving up your IP; it could just mean designing from the beginning with the idea that a company won't last forever—but that'll never happen unless it's forced by law.

Re:SmartDry’s useful laundry sensor to be cloud-bricked next... by hedora on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:31PM (#32685572)
Source code escrow agreements are reasonably common. When a startup receives an investment from BigCo, it comes with the condition that BigCo gets a perpetual license to the source code / IP if the startup fails.

It would be straightforward to mandate such agreements be included with all IoT device purchases.

Ideally, they'd also be triggered by acquisitions or modifications to privacy policies. I can dream, right?