News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on Former world champion reveals that she was ordered to lose Olympic semi-final. Parent comment

Re:Former world champion reveals that she was ordered to los... by shakna on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:33AM (#32672767)
> ... team orders are a part of the sport rather than a form of cheating. As much as the fans like to complain about it, there’s only really a few controversial cases...

Actually, if a team order changes a ranking, and it can be proved, then the team is automatically issued a fine. Just because the team orders happen, does not actually mean that they're _allowed_ to happen. The fines are generally in the order of $100k-$250k.

Team orders have been banned in F1 since 2008 [0]:

> 152. Team orders which interfere with a race result are prohibited.

There's a reason that Smedley's quote is infamous:

> Fernando is faster than you. Can you confirm you understand that message?

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20081206120227/https://paddockta...

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Former world champion reveals that she was ordered to los... by Andrew_nenakhov on Thursday September 01, 2022 @03:22AM (#32673105)
> Team orders have been banned in F1 since 2008 [0]:

This statement is misleading, as it gives the appearance that this ban is still in effect. However, the ban was repealed at the end of 2010 season. [0]

[0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_orders

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Former world champion reveals that she was ordered to los... by thaumasiotes on Thursday September 01, 2022 @04:29AM (#32673594)
>> Team orders have been banned in F1 since 2008 [0]:

> This statement is misleading, as it gives the appearance that this ban is still in effect.

Not quite. The statement is false, because it states outright that the ban is still in effect.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Former world champion reveals that she was ordered to los... by martin_a on Thursday September 01, 2022 @07:47AM (#32675043)
> The fines are generally in the order of $100k-$250k.

Seems like the budget for a F1 team is around 140 million Euro/year. Not sure these fines make anybody feel uncomfortable.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Former world champion reveals that she was ordered to los... by AmericanChopper on Thursday September 01, 2022 @03:54AM (#32673337)
That ban on team orders was repealed very soon after it was implemented. F1 is currently, and has been for nearly its entire history, a team sport, where team orders are allowed.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:Former world champion reveals that she was ordered to los... by singlow on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:49AM (#32672893)
Team orders were banned in 2002 but it was lifted in 2011.
[ Parent | on HN ]