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Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach by Banana699 on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @04:58PM (#32668274)
>They (KiwiFarms, Daily Stormer) would be better not on the internet.

That's not for you to decide, you're not the manager of the internet.

Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach by dehugger on Thursday September 01, 2022 @03:23AM (#32673116)
Who decides then? Who is the manager of the Internet? Cloudflare?
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach by phillipcarter on Thursday September 01, 2022 @10:49AM (#32677089)
In this case, Cloudflare. They have the right to decide who gets to use their service or not. It's an amazing freedom because they're not a utility.

But they're not free from criticism of their decisions.

Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach by Banana699 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:47AM (#32678142)
Nobody is the manager of the Internet, that's the whole fucking point of the Internet.

Your right to censor and regulate traffic ends exactly where your machines do not reach. Cloudflare own the machines in question, so they decide what stays on and what doesn't. They are the managers of the part of the Internet where their machines reach (Duh), but none else.

It's funny that I have to explain this because it's usually the other way around, some tech giant will usually ban someone for something incredibly arbitrary and nakedly unfair, and the folks crying about Cloudflare's decisions here are usually the first to start cheering and explaining to the rest of us how they're a private company and have the right to do anything they want. Well, Cloudflare is a private company too, folks, and they decided that free speech is awesome and worth it, and you gotta respect their decisions and stop raging impotently about things you can't control.