Re:Netbooks' achilles heel isn't processing power, it's scre...
by zhyder on Wednesday October 08, 2008 @02:11PM
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I'm waiting for a 14/15" notebook with a Netbook-class processor. It would be light, have great battery life, and be cool.
If they can put those processors in desktops ("Nettops"), they should be able to put them in standard-sized notebooks. Altho I'm not sure MS will still allow XP on them, and -barring Linux- XP is needed for battery life and performance.
It's well established that larger screen sizes increase productivity. A 9/10" screen may be sufficient for web-browsing, but I'd like to use the device for many other things, and I'd like it to be more than barely sufficient anyway.
There isn't much difference in the portability of a 15" laptop and a 10" one. Neither can be pocketed; both need a laptop case.
Re:Netbooks' achilles heel isn't processing power, it's scre...
by jonknee on Wednesday October 08, 2008 @05:25PM
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> There isn't much difference in the portability of a 15" laptop and a 10" one. Neither can be pocketed; both need a laptop case.
I own a Mac Book Pro and bought an Aspire One primarily because I was tired of lugging around the MBP. There is a huge difference. It's hard to realize until you have both, but the MBP feels giant and I hardly move it now.
One thing I bet they will do in future revs is up the video power so you can hook it into larger external screens--the VGA out to my 24" doesn't look so hot.
Re:Netbooks' achilles heel isn't processing power, it's scre...
by jonknee on Wednesday October 08, 2008 @07:22PM
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Size, weight and expense of replacement. It's a great computer, don't get me wrong, but netbooks are a whole other level of portability.
Low replacement cost is a really good feature for a mobile and helps me appreciate the small size and weight more. For example, if I go somewhere with my MBP it stays with me at all times. That's a huge pain in the ass sometimes, the last time I was in Vegas I had the MBP on my shoulder for 4 days straight. But if I go somewhere with my Aspire One I don't feel bad about leaving it in the glove box or whatever.
I wouldn't make a netbook my main computer until they get a bit more power (especially VRAM), but it makes a great accessory. I have used it a lot more than I thought I would. It's quite popular when I have people over too, which is nice because I don't have to worry about what's running on my main computer (shell sessions and what not). If someone wants to drink and YouTube there's now a laptop sitting on the coffee table at all times.
Probably not for everyone, but a very high percentage of people who have used mine expressed interest in getting one. Wouldn't be surprised if a few already bought one.
Re:Netbooks' achilles heel isn't processing power, it's scre...
by carterschonwald on Wednesday October 08, 2008 @04:55PM
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Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the day when laptops have mini projectors associated screens for active lighting and hence high contrast awesomeness for reading. And considering the current trends in relevant technology, I think thats going to happen in the next decade or so (oled's would be nice too)
Re:Netbooks' achilles heel isn't processing power, it's scre...
by Zev on Wednesday October 08, 2008 @04:45PM
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I would argue that its not processing or screen size, but rather battery life.. Which the article touched on briefly at the end.
With my MacBook Pro (15.4"), I can get a good 4-5 hours per battery (I've got two batteries, one a year old and one 2-3 months old) if all I'm doing is surfing the net or reading an ebook/watching a non-HD show. And it takes maybe, 10 seconds to switch my battery and a minute to boot back up and back to what I was previously doing.
Until there's a netbook that gets an average battery life longer then my current setup, I've got no reason to switch - or even recommend a netbook to someone over a regular laptop. This way has a nice screen size, good wifi range, same battery life, etc. And I'd carry the same bag around either way.
Re:Netbooks' achilles heel isn't processing power, it's scre...
by jonknee on Wednesday October 08, 2008 @05:30PM
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I don't get close to that battery life with my MPB (maybe 3 when the batteries were new), but even then there are plenty of netbooks in that range. Some Eee PCs are rated up to 7. Same with some Aspire Ones. Basically any that advertise a 6-cell battery will have plenty of juice.
Fun facts: the MBP battery is about half the size of my [whole] netbook, not far from the weight and most amazingly a replacement MBP battery costs 40% of the price of the netbook.
Re:Netbooks' achilles heel isn't processing power, it's scre...
by jonknee on Wednesday October 08, 2008 @01:54PM
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I'm reading this on an Aspire One. The screen is plenty for most sites (1024x600). Even with its small size there is space in the case to make the screen quite a bit larger and I expect that will happen in the future.
Re:Netbooks' achilles heel isn't processing power, it's scre...
by wmeredith on Wednesday October 08, 2008 @01:41PM
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I couldn't agree more. My favorite computer I've owned is still my G4 12" Powerbook. It's the perfect size. Sure, I wish the screen was bigger, but I also wish it had no mass. In other words, Speek's projector comment was right on the money in my book.
If they can put those processors in desktops ("Nettops"), they should be able to put them in standard-sized notebooks. Altho I'm not sure MS will still allow XP on them, and -barring Linux- XP is needed for battery life and performance.
It's well established that larger screen sizes increase productivity. A 9/10" screen may be sufficient for web-browsing, but I'd like to use the device for many other things, and I'd like it to be more than barely sufficient anyway.
There isn't much difference in the portability of a 15" laptop and a 10" one. Neither can be pocketed; both need a laptop case.
I own a Mac Book Pro and bought an Aspire One primarily because I was tired of lugging around the MBP. There is a huge difference. It's hard to realize until you have both, but the MBP feels giant and I hardly move it now.
One thing I bet they will do in future revs is up the video power so you can hook it into larger external screens--the VGA out to my 24" doesn't look so hot.
Low replacement cost is a really good feature for a mobile and helps me appreciate the small size and weight more. For example, if I go somewhere with my MBP it stays with me at all times. That's a huge pain in the ass sometimes, the last time I was in Vegas I had the MBP on my shoulder for 4 days straight. But if I go somewhere with my Aspire One I don't feel bad about leaving it in the glove box or whatever.
I wouldn't make a netbook my main computer until they get a bit more power (especially VRAM), but it makes a great accessory. I have used it a lot more than I thought I would. It's quite popular when I have people over too, which is nice because I don't have to worry about what's running on my main computer (shell sessions and what not). If someone wants to drink and YouTube there's now a laptop sitting on the coffee table at all times.
Probably not for everyone, but a very high percentage of people who have used mine expressed interest in getting one. Wouldn't be surprised if a few already bought one.
With my MacBook Pro (15.4"), I can get a good 4-5 hours per battery (I've got two batteries, one a year old and one 2-3 months old) if all I'm doing is surfing the net or reading an ebook/watching a non-HD show. And it takes maybe, 10 seconds to switch my battery and a minute to boot back up and back to what I was previously doing.
Until there's a netbook that gets an average battery life longer then my current setup, I've got no reason to switch - or even recommend a netbook to someone over a regular laptop. This way has a nice screen size, good wifi range, same battery life, etc. And I'd carry the same bag around either way.
Fun facts: the MBP battery is about half the size of my [whole] netbook, not far from the weight and most amazingly a replacement MBP battery costs 40% of the price of the netbook.
This isn't any better on the 9" versions either...