Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by chc on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @12:09PM
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I agree, I wish we had a law enforcement apparatus that cared about protecting transgender people. But we don't have a clear path to that at the moment, and in the meantime we want to avoid more people being killed. Thus you have people trying to argue for more informal procedures that revolve around social pressure, telling companies basically "This is obviously way beyond the pale, you should not associate yourself with this." It's not a good state for things to be in, but pretending things are better than they are is an even worse solution.
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Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by throwrqX on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @12:31PM
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What evidence is there for the law enforcement apparatus not protecting transgender people in this particular case? Have their been similar cases for cisgender people where the law enforcement apparatus has cared more? I am not sure saying we need mob action to stop other mob action is a good long term solution.
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by FrecklySunbeam on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @12:39PM
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Law enforcement is the tool being used to do the violence ffs, they’re not protecting anyone
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by throwrqX on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @01:13PM
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Law enforcement are doing the right thing responding to potentially emergency situations. The problem isn't that they are responding to SWATing, the problem is people calling them in when there is no emergency.
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by inquirerGeneral on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @01:01PM
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Yeah make up your facts better.
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by FrecklySunbeam on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @01:03PM
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so wacky so made up https://kotaku.com/keffals-clara-sorrenti-twitch-streamer-tr...
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by chc on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @02:40PM
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I can't think of any instances of people being persecuted for being cisgender. But I suppose you can draw a reasonable comparison to The Pirate Bay, which has received much more attention from law enforcement for cutting into record labels' profits than Kiwi Farms has for terrorizing queer people.
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by throwrqX on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @06:08PM
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Things involving industry and large sums of money have always gotten police attention easier. What is in question here is regarding discrimination against transgender individuals compared to cisgender ones with regards to harassment.
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by amrocha on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @04:05PM
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Jesus Christ dude, there's people dying here and you're arguing over technicalities. The site is still up!! No one's been arrested! You'd rather people keep dying while you argue that both sides are bad, while one side is killing people?
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by throwrqX on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @06:14PM
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No, I'd rather people report things to the proper law enforcement authorities if they believe there is criminal activity going on instead of trying to pressure CloudFlare into taking down websites for their moral or political beliefs. They have already resisted pressure from Ukraine regarding Russia which no offense is a directly killing far more people than Kiwifarms ever indirectly will.
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by wahnfrieden on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @03:36PM
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Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by throwrqX on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @06:06PM
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Key words in my post were in this particular case. Neither links talk about any similar cases regarding cisgender people and harassment either.
Re:Cloudflare's abuse policies and approach
by wahnfrieden on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @08:34PM
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