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Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by jmyeet on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @10:06AM (#32650638)
> Joe Rogan as recently as last week said the vaccine is mostly safe

- "How Joe Rogan Became a Cheerleader for Ivermectin" [1]

- "Fact-Checking Joe Rogan’s Interview With Robert Malone That Caused an Uproar" [2]

- "What the Joe Rogan podcast controversy says about the online misinformation ecosystem" [3]

> But his main disagreement is pretending that it’s okay that biological males vs biological females is fair.

Sports isn't fair, period. It's why there's no "under 6 foot" NBA league. It's only with trans people that people suddenly (pretend to) care.

> And to correct you further, the 90s were the period where gay rights went mainstream

- "ABC shelves Ellen" (1998) [4]

- "Why Laura Dern Didn't Work For A Year, Despite Jurassic Park's Success" [5]

- "How ‘homophobia’ denied Sharon Bottoms custody of her son in the 1990s" [6]

Examples here are legion. Homophobia permeated popular culture (eg TV and box office movies). There was progress made, sure, but homophobia was so normalized at the time. I have to wonder if you lived through this era (as I did) or just read about it.

I mean, homophobia was still weaponized into the 2000s. Many credit Karl Rove with weaponizing state ballot measures on gay marriage to win the 2004 presidential election [7].

> Dawson’s Creek

technically the coming out storyline was 1999-2000 I believe and was controversial. Roseanne [8] is probably a better example. Picket Fences ended up censoring a kiss scene in 1993 [9] and caused quite a lot of controversy at the time.

[1]: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/joe-ro...

[2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/arts/music/fact-check-joe...

[3]: https://www.npr.org/2022/01/21/1074442185/joe-rogan-doctor-c...

[4]: https://money.cnn.com/1998/04/24/bizbuzz/ellen/

[5]: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2485962/why-laura-dern-didn...

[6]: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-homophobia-denied-shar...

[7]: https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=230634&page=1

[8]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Ask,_Don%27t_Tell_(Ros...

[9]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_%26_Spice_(Picket_Fences...

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by remote_phone on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:39PM (#32654160)
Nothing you posted contradicts what I said. Questioning the vaccine doesn’t mean that he didn’t think it was safe for most people. He even almost got the vaccine if not for a scheduling conflict.

When I said “mainstream” I didn’t mean they were generally accepted. I meant that the issue of gay rights became a topic. Some places like Canada openly legalized gay marriage without much of a protest. Gay rights infection point was definitely in the 90s and only got stronger. It wasn’t like the 80s where gays were openly mocked like in Three’s Company