Why I quit using SwiftUI

Re:Why I quit using SwiftUI by NonNefarious on Monday August 29, 2022 @02:42PM (#32641871)

So you want icons to be able to overlap each other, or be different distances from each other, or what? I'm trying to figure out what exactly you're trying to accomplish. What would be the benefit of totally arbitrary, down-to-the-pixel placement ability?

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Re:Why I quit using SwiftUI by hota_mazi on Monday August 29, 2022 @04:15PM (#32642991)

No, not talking about overlapping.

Just talking about being able to grab an icon and position it anywhere I want on the screen (possibly snapped to a grid).

Right now, icons have to be aligned in rows anchored in the top left corner, so that whenever you insert a new one, all the ones after that get pushed right or down, messing up your entire layout.

We've had this ability on desktops since Windows 3 thirty years ago, and Android has had it since day one. As does macOS. Why not iOS?

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Re:Why I quit using SwiftUI by NonNefarious on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @09:53AM (#32650436)

I have to admit that I don't understand your use case, but I'd be a hypocrite to denigrate your preference simply because it's not one I would use.

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Re:Why I quit using SwiftUI by hota_mazi on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @12:14PM (#32652095)

I don't know how else I can describe it, maybe you're so used to it you don't see how limiting it is.

Here is a thread on reddit describing it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/r2vs1x/why_cant_you_pu...

There are a few solutions around it, some require a jailbroken iPhone, others use empty widgets to create "fake space".

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Re:Why I quit using SwiftUI by NonNefarious on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:51PM (#32654268)

Why do your icons move around so much? I've added or removed applications from my iPhone and the only limitation I see is that they have to be in a grid with no empty spaces between them. Otherwise the same application icons are in the same place, every day, year after year.

Do you have a screen shot that could illustrate what it is you want to be able to do?

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Re:Why I quit using SwiftUI by hota_mazi on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:50PM (#32655609)

Man... I don't know what's so hard to understand. You put icons on your desktop anywhere you want all the time, don't you?

They're not all stacked up starting at the left corner, are they?

Imagine that all I want is three icons on my home screen, all lined up on the right edge of the screen, where they are easy to reach by my thumb.

You can't do that on iOS.

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Re:Why I quit using SwiftUI by NonNefarious on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @05:39AM (#32660131)

To answer your question: No, I do not, ever. I don't want shit all over my desktop. I have them auto-arranged in a grid. On Windows they start on the left, on Mac they start on the right. So when I (for example) take a screen shot and it gets deposited on the desktop, I know where it's going to be.

But now that you finally gave a concrete example of what you want to do, I can at least picture it.

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