SoftBank’s losses reveal Masayoshi Son’s broken business model

Re:SoftBank’s losses reveal Masayoshi Son’s broken business ... by hackerlight on Monday August 29, 2022 @06:07AM (#32636415)

I am not "pretending" that it creates positive surplus value. It does create surplus value through simple mechanisms.

Also, it's unfair to say I am ignoring every single negative externality. All I did was challenge the questionable claim that Uber has much to do with the state of our cities being car-centric and underprovisioned by public transport, because the root cause of that situation is homeowners, not Uber. I didn't give my blessing to all of Uber's practices.

> sacrifice a bunch of workers to drive for your comfort 16 hours a day, being paid like shit

Putting aside the false analogy to child labor, I don't accept the framing that all low wage labor is uncool. It's a type of mindless compassion that can actually lead to anti-utilitarian outcomes in practice. Although I have no positive or negative judgment of Uber in particular regarding this point, because I haven't looked into it for Uber. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32627174

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Re:SoftBank’s losses reveal Masayoshi Son’s broken business ... by ghaff on Monday August 29, 2022 @10:00AM (#32638336)

Many cities and their suburbs were car-centric before Uber and many will be car-centric after Uber. Perhaps somewhat fewer will feel the need to own a car (or a second car) but that doesn't really change the basic nature of transportation options. If anything, there's probably been a (little) bit more attention paid to public transit and things like bike lanes in some cities during the period Uber has existed. Many of us use Uber or Lyft once in a blue moon. My life wouldn't change one iota if Uber vanished tomorrow.

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