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Re:How Segment Found Product Market Fit by auggierose on Sunday August 28, 2022 @04:57PM (#32632002)
So how would you classify what Apple did with the iPod and then the iPhone? Did it define and shape the future? Or did they find out what the market wanted and solve for it?

It seems to me both approaches are valid. One approach builds the future that most people imagine and want. The other one builds a future that one person, or a small group of people, imagine and want. Certainly the former is more likely to succeed, but the latter might yield more interesting results if successful.

Re:How Segment Found Product Market Fit by harrisonjackson on Sunday August 28, 2022 @08:22PM (#32633540)
Apple also wasn’t anything close to a startup when they released the iPod or iPhone.
Re:How Segment Found Product Market Fit by rsanaie on Sunday August 28, 2022 @11:14PM (#32634424)
Also not all founders are visionary geniuses like Steve Jobs, with confidence the size of Eiffel tower
Re:How Segment Found Product Market Fit by auggierose on Monday August 29, 2022 @10:48AM (#32638956)
I'd rather have visionary geniuses as founders, though ...