Complete Introduction to Particles in Japanese

Re:Complete Introduction to Particles in Japanese by cshimmin on Saturday August 27, 2022 @10:41AM (#32619527)

I think a really good example of this is adjective precedence. For example, any native speaker immediately knows "wooden nice green big house" is wrong, and they also immediately know that "nice big green wooden house" is the correct ordering. Good luck explaining why.

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Re:Complete Introduction to Particles in Japanese by nopinsight on Saturday August 27, 2022 @12:48PM (#32620824)

Here's my own theory on this. The English adjective order does have some logic to it.

   opinion, size, age, shape, color, origin, material, purpose

The adjective closer to noun tends to describe something more like an 'essence' of the noun. Changing the purpose adjective, eg 'savings account' to 'checking account', is more fundamental than changing other kinds of adjectives. The opinion adjectives are the most superficial and most fickle among them.

I haven't tested this extensively enough. Your thoughts and counterexamples welcomed!

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Re:Complete Introduction to Particles in Japanese by aikinai on Saturday August 27, 2022 @11:54AM (#32620332)

Wow, that’s a really good one! I’ve never thought about that.

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