Day ahead electricity prices for EU

Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by sprak on Saturday August 27, 2022 @09:34AM (#32618798)

Sweden has four zones and according to [1] tomorrow's price will be from north to south:

Zone 1: 14,25 cents/kWh

Zone 2: 14,25 cents/kWh

Zone 3: 108,64 cents/kWh

Zone 4: 201,63 cents/kWh

1 Swedish krona is 0,094 USD. So between 1,3 and 20 American cents per kWh.

Most people live in Zone 3 followed by Zone 4. Facebook's datacenter is in Zone 1.

[1]: https://elen.nu

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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by thepasswordis on Saturday August 27, 2022 @11:23AM (#32620005)

To put this into more human terms: a tesla model Y has a 75kwh battery.

So this means to charge it, at home, would cost between $0.75, $2.25, and $15.

A normal air conditioner uses about 3.5kw. So if it runs for 6 hours a day, so 21kwh/day. $0.21/day, $0.63/day, and $4.2/day.

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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by kilovoltaire on Saturday August 27, 2022 @11:46AM (#32620256)

thanks for the context!

small typo - air conditioner should be 3.5kw not kwh

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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by roflyear on Saturday August 27, 2022 @01:20PM (#32621107)

How much in Cali?

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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by Rebelgecko on Saturday August 27, 2022 @02:59PM (#32621973)

If you're paying in Cali you can multiply the USD amount by 5000 to get the approximate cost in Colombian pesos

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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by moogly on Saturday August 27, 2022 @11:38AM (#32620164)

Facebook will have a much lower price anyway. Large industries (like steel plants, mining operations, paper mills, saw mills, and, yes, data centers) in Sweden have not been affected yet since they are not normally directly exposed to the spot price due to different price protection strategies[0]. There is no way Facebook pays consumer spot prices. Plus Sweden has the lowest electricity tax in the EU[1] for these companies. They raised it from 0 in 2019 due to EU regulations to 0.005 SEK/kWh. Consumer electricity tax today is 0.45 SEK/kWh including VAT. I believe there is also a way to write off a part of the electricity costs.

[0]: https://www.svd.se/a/rE0R9R/elpriserna-nar-inte-industrin-ha... (paywall)

[1]: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/lagst-elpriser-till-indus...

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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by tmikaeld on Saturday August 27, 2022 @10:47AM (#32619594)

The disturbing thing is that Zone 4 has to pay export prices, when it would be fairer to pay pre-export prices.

It's already starting to bankrupt businesses in Zone 4, that are calling for immediate changes [0].

[0] https://www.di.se/live/efter-elprissmockan-skanska-foretag-v...

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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by anticristi on Saturday August 27, 2022 @12:02PM (#32620412)

Hello from zone 4. Indeed, people here are pretty pissed about this. Basically, if an exporting transmission line got damaged, zone 4 prices would drop instantly.

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Re:Day ahead electricity prices for EU by tmikaeld on Saturday August 27, 2022 @01:37PM (#32621255)

I'm also in Zone 4, prepare to be even more pissed then, the state want to double the export capacity [0].

[0] https://www.sydsvenskan.se/2022-08-18/regeringen-kan-bana-va...

The electricity companies and the socialist state earn billions [1] (2021), they have no incentives to change how it currently works.

[1] https://www.tn.se/hallbarhet/kritiken-staten-tjanar-miljarde...

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