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Re:Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019) by EGreg on Friday August 26, 2022 @01:08AM (#32603570)
Nah. Just have people generate their own keys. Then distribute a token to everyone, like registering to vote or NYC ID. Finally, have an official mixer like tornado cash that only works with these tokens. Ring signatures baby !

Now you distribute UBI, allow voting etc. And it is all pseudonymous.

That’s what we are building out at Intercoin.org/applications btw :)

Re:Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019) by neysofu on Friday August 26, 2022 @05:28AM (#32605054)
Ring signatures -based mixers for voting seems like a bad idea... how do you solve vote selling?
Re:Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019) by EGreg on Friday August 26, 2022 @07:56AM (#32606182)
If you want to go all the way, you can make a system where you can’t prove how you voted. But you can check using ZKP that your vote was counted in the final result. https://medium.com/edge-elections/what-is-a-zero-knowledge-p...

But out of curiosity, what exactly do you imagine happens in vote selling? Someone pays off each individual in half the population to vote a certain way? How do they do this at scale and how do you know it isn’t more cost—effective to just influence them?

Most people who voted for Biden instead of Bernie ahead of Super Tuesday made up their minds on the way to the polls. Biden wouldn’t have even won if nearly all the other participants wouldn’t have dropped out and endorsed him. He was losing badly to Bernie (and Pete) but as soon as he managed to prove electability in one state, all the other candidates fell on their sword. It’s like in a poker tournament where the chip leader loses to some guy who isn’t even 2nd or 3rd because everyone else stands up and gives him their chips.

And also, there are trade offs the other way. There are tons of failure modes in voting non electronically. I write about them here:

https://www.coindesk.com/in-defense-of-blockchain-voting/

Re:Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019) by alexb_ on Friday August 26, 2022 @09:38AM (#32607355)
>allow voting

Voting should always have a paper trail. And there's also the problem of allowing the technologically illiterate/aversive to vote.

Re:Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019) by EGreg on Friday August 26, 2022 @05:37PM (#32613034)
What good is the paper trail? Does it prove to the voter that the electronic machine recorded the vote as intended? If so, how?

A sister comment just asked what we would do about selling votes. Well, if you can use the piece of paper to prove how you voted, I guess you “can sell your votes”

Re:Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019) by smashed on Friday August 26, 2022 @01:17AM (#32603615)
Sounds interesting but can you elaborate on the social benefits, challenges and potential downfalls of such an approach?
Re:Your online identity is owned by your email provider (2019) by EGreg on Friday August 26, 2022 @05:37PM (#32613038)