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Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by vinaypai on Thursday August 25, 2022 @02:38PM (#32598092)
Google in 1999 was an upstart search provider promising a clean, minimal, user-focused ad-supported search experience as an alternative to entrenched search engines like Lycos, Altavista, Yahoo.

DuckDuckGo in 2022 is an upstart search provider promising a clean, minimal, user-focused ad-supported search experience as an alternative to entrenched search engines like Google.

I'm old enough to remember when Google was the new and exciting thing (just give it a try and ignore the stupid-sounding name!). For the longest time there wasn't even such a thing as a Google account, it just saved preferences like safe-search locally using cookies, and ads were just a small distinctly colored text bar above the organic search results, directly related to your search keywords.

Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by yojo on Thursday August 25, 2022 @03:57PM (#32599196)
The original Google ads were actually to the side - no way of confusing them with organic listings. Ads above results weren’t rolled out until 2007ish. Internally there was a lot of debate as to whether this might be confusing to users/evil, so the decision was to only show ads above results on queries that appeared to be high commercial intent. RIP old Google
Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by dwighttk on Thursday August 25, 2022 @03:15PM (#32598582)
True.

Not sure how paying for this service makes it any less likely that DDG will flip a switch to make that targeted advertising money though. That temptation will exist either with a paid service or a non targeted ad supported service.

Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by vinaypai on Thursday August 25, 2022 @10:00PM (#32602511)
Nothing is guaranteed, but at least you are the customer not the product if it's a paid service.

I have very little tolerance for companies that double-dip though. I subscribed to the New York Times for a while, but cancelled, in part, because they still stuffed their pages with ads both explicit and implicit.

Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by tlholaday on Friday August 26, 2022 @07:16AM (#32605870)
What are some of the reasons you expect a $4.25/week digital subscription to have fewer ads than a $20/week newsprint subscription?
Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by vinaypai on Friday August 26, 2022 @08:27AM (#32606481)
You need to be explained why it's cheaper to publish news to a website than print physical papers every morning and deliver them to homes across the country every single day in time for it to be relevant?
Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by shukantpal on Friday August 26, 2022 @09:56AM (#32607585)
Lmao show the numbers then. Is the cost of printing 75% of the newspaper- probably not.
Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by codegladiator on Thursday August 25, 2022 @04:18PM (#32599447)
What search engine do you use ( I am assuming its not google ) ?
Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by vinaypai on Thursday August 25, 2022 @10:13PM (#32602605)
I currently use Neeva. They're okay, but I'm still looking for a better option. I don't subscribe to their paid version because the upgrades you get just seem like silly gimics to me. They have some good ideas but fall short on execution in my mind.

I really want the option to turn off certain sites (eg. w3schools) entirely from search results, not just demote them.

Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by Terretta on Thursday August 25, 2022 @03:47PM (#32599079)
Consider paying for kagi.com.
Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by ukd1 on Thursday August 25, 2022 @04:20PM (#32599472)
As a paying subscriber, I 2nd this - it's great.
Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by vinaypai on Thursday August 25, 2022 @10:05PM (#32602547)
Thanks, I'll check them out.
Re:DuckDuckGo email protection beta now open by troyvit on Thursday August 25, 2022 @07:08PM (#32601193)
Personally I see a difference between a search company funded by ads vs a privacy company that leverages anonymous search ads to pay for its privacy offerings. I mean yeah DDG could completely flip its business model but what would they actually flip to? Their only main differentiator is that they are privacy friendly.