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Re:The end of the manual transmission is near? by vladtheimpala on Thursday August 25, 2022 @05:54AM (#32591601)
> The other reason is, of course, that document you signed at the dealership stated that you've only purchased the _right_to_use_ the car... not the actual car.

I can assure you that (in the US at least) when you buy a car, pay off any financing, and ultimately hold the title free and clear, you do in fact own the car.

Re:The end of the manual transmission is near? by ericmay on Thursday August 25, 2022 @08:06AM (#32592571)
Right to repair advocates should be focusing on this too. Companies should have to provide a mechanism for disabling telemetry data (or some variation of this that I think we could discuss and identify) or provide opt-out that doesn’t affect other features of the vehicle so companies can’t play games.
Re:The end of the manual transmission is near? by dinom on Thursday August 25, 2022 @05:10PM (#32599991)
I don't dispute that. But, I don't think owning the title means the car needs to be fully operational.

Titles to ratty, broken down, cars are bought and sold every day... aren't they? And, just because it's shiny doesn't mean it's a great car either. It could be a great sculpture.

I think the issues at play here are more about service and warranty contracts as well as buyer expectations. Having the title just means I own a giant hunk of metal and plastic, no?