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Re:Korea shatters its own record for world’s lowest fertilit... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @09:58PM (#32588484)
Not really.

One can also frame it as society’s fault for not providing both women and men with sufficient incentive to procreate. Note that the word “fault” typically has a negative connotation, but I am not intending to use it with positive or negative connotation, but simply as a causative factor.

The comment I replied to stated something changed, to which I wanted to clarify what I think the biggest variable that changed. Of course, men also may not want to have as many kids as in previous years, but I would still bet this is a much smaller factor than women saying no.

Re:Korea shatters its own record for world’s lowest fertilit... by imtringued on Thursday August 25, 2022 @03:27AM (#32590691)
It does sound like we were relying on alcohol, a lack of contraceptives, a lack of choice for women and good old forcing people into marriage to subsidize the lack of incentive to have children.
Re:Korea shatters its own record for world’s lowest fertilit... by makeitdouble on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @10:32PM (#32588718)
There's a trend happening in many countries where economical stagnation or downturn push young people and couples to wait for better days to engage in romantic relationships or build families.

You could shelve that as "society not providing enough incentives", but to me it looks like a more complex issue than what's covered by carrot/stick mechanisms.

Not all issues leading to forgoing procreating are that complex, but putting any of them as "women chose to xxxx" is I think only useful at a micro level, and kinda misses the reasons why they chose to do so, which are usually not in any individual's hand.

Re:Korea shatters its own record for world’s lowest fertilit... by imtringued on Thursday August 25, 2022 @03:29AM (#32590705)
Capitalism has a minimum profitability requirements, simply being wealthy and having abundance does not mesh well with capitalism, instead the go to solution has been to send people to war and destroy all the wealth we built up so the rebuilding phase is profitable again. The fact that this profit is utterly pointless and does not increase human well-being doesn't matter.