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Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by JohnJamesRambo on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @07:14PM (#32587141)
Wouldn’t people just buy BTC and ETH with the banned Tether and pump them to the stratosphere as they tried to leave the sinking ship? I remember something similar happening in 2019 or so when there was some extreme Tether worry and the price of BTC started going up and up.

There’s a lot of money in stablecoins at the moment.

Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by onlyrealcuzzo on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @07:54PM (#32587494)
No, because someone would have to trade / buy the Tether, and no one would, so the price of Tether would drop like a stone - not the other way around.
Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by SilasX on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @11:13PM (#32589016)
Somebody would! (Or rather, some thing.) There are a lot of smartcontract liquidity pools in Ethereum that facilitate trade between two tokens. The set an exchange rate by a formula that only looks at how much of each token is currently in the pool, not at prevailing market price[1].

So if and when it's apparent that Tether will be worthless, there will be a mad dash to dump it in those LPs in exchange for the other tokens, which was what happened to TerraUSD [2].

Here's a list of the LPs that have Tether as one token, just on Uniswap:

https://info.uniswap.org/#/tokens/0xdac17f958d2ee523a2206206...

[1] This dynamic has the effect of writing a persistent ITM option with intrinsic value equal to LP's price divergence from the market exchange rate.

[2] Here's Curve's infamous 4pool, which has TerraUSD (UST) and three other non-defunct stablecoins -- it's 97% UST now: https://curve.fi/4pool

Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by thematrixturtle on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @09:35PM (#32588292)
Both would happen simultaneously. Think of crypto like a balloon with only a narrow exit at one end going out into fiat: if you push down on Tether, BTC/ETH will inflate in Tether terms (because everybody who can moves into other cryptos) but deflate in USD terms (because there will be a run for the exits and a lack of buyers).
Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by red_trumpet on Thursday August 25, 2022 @07:40AM (#32592341)
So both BTC/ETH and Tether would deflate in USD terms...
Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by rcohngru on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @07:57PM (#32587512)
There are two sides to every trade. Who would be willing to give up their BTC and ETH for banned Tether?
Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by octoberfranklin on Thursday August 25, 2022 @03:08AM (#32590545)
If the crash is bad enough: Tether itself. Or Bitfinex, its parent.

If they buy up their own debt at $0.01 on the dollar then they got away with their fractional reserving scheme, and their executives walk free. Free and very wealthy.

There is always a clearing price. The question is simply "how low"?

Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by JohnJamesRambo on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @10:23PM (#32588659)
My experience in crypto tells me that there is usually always someone willing to be on the other side of the trade. People exiting Tether would still be exiting through a smaller and smaller door of BTC and ETH going up and up. More and more desperate to pay any price to exit Tether.
Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by JumpCrisscross on Thursday August 25, 2022 @01:10AM (#32589762)
> there is usually always someone willing to be on the other side of the trade

This is usually true in financial markets. When it's not, we call it a crisis.

Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by imtringued on Thursday August 25, 2022 @09:14AM (#32593278)
But at what price? Will tethers be sold to debt collectors for pennies?
Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by qeternity on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @07:32PM (#32587299)
It went up _in USDT terms_

If Tether was sanctioned crypto would nuke in USD terms

Re:Tether will not freeze Tornado Cash addresses by amluto on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @07:19PM (#32587184)
Suppose you owned clean ETH and someone offered you a 10% premium over the going rate if you were willing to accept sanctioned Tether in exchange. Would you really accept that deal?