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Re:Ask HN: How do you get references without alerting manage... by edmundsauto on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @11:34AM (#32580765)
Ask before you need it. "Hey Tina, if I were to move jobs in couple years, would you be a reference?"

But I also wonder why you care - is it so that you can keep your job if you don't get the new offer?

Re:Ask HN: How do you get references without alerting manage... by nso95 on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @12:28PM (#32581768)
"is it so that you can keep your job if you don't get the new offer?" yes, exactly
Re:Ask HN: How do you get references without alerting manage... by edmundsauto on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @01:43PM (#32583005)
That’s fair. Have you directly observed anything that makes you think asking for a referral might get you fired?

If your current company is just a normal company, it might ruffle some feathers. But that company needs you to do the work, so most of the time they’re not just going to fire you for looking somewhere else.

Can you ask someone outside the company for a referral? Most of the time it’s not a key factor in getting hired - they’re just checking a box.