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Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by panick21_ on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @08:45PM (#32573620)
Sure if you have young kids, spezially more then one. But that the minority of people.
Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by iggldiggl on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @04:22AM (#32576367)
People who have young kids right now might be a minority, but people who have had kids a some point are a far larger fraction of the population. If the expectation is that all parents of young kids need a car, then there's a high likelihood that they just continue using a car afterwards, too.
Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by panick21_ on Wednesday August 24, 2022 @09:01AM (#32578884)
Just because you need a car at some point doesn't mean you always want a car forever.

And as soon as kids are old enough to ride bicycles or public transport themselves you live situation changes and you can very likely get rid of your car.

And if you actually look into places like Netherlands you will see that lots of people don't have cars even with small kids. The 'Soccor mom with SUV' cliche in the US, is replaced in the Netherlands by the 'Bicycle mom' who brings here kids in on bicycles.

Re:France is now offering a €4k e-bike subsidy to people who... by iggldiggl on Thursday August 25, 2022 @08:18AM (#32592694)
> Just because you need a car at some point doesn't mean you always want a car forever.

Certainly, but I think it still sets up a certain tendency which gives car usage a headstart.

> And if you actually look into places like Netherlands you will see that lots of people don't have cars even with small kids. The 'Soccor mom with SUV' cliche in the US, is replaced in the Netherlands by the 'Bicycle mom' who brings here kids in on bicycles.

Absolutely, I'm not arguing that. I was mainly responding to the point that the behaviours and needs of parents with small kids supposedly don't matter because at any moment in time there aren't that many of them around.