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Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by _trampeltier on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:16PM (#32568898)
Free market. People forget free market is not allways cheaper.
Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by retrac on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:25PM (#32569025)
It's not a free market, though. It's not even a well-regulated market. It's a total mess of a market. This is a land zoning map of Toronto [1], one of the more pathological examples for a North American city. Toronto is a large and dense city with a housing shortage. And yet everything in red? It's only legal to construct a detached single family-home on that land.

In something at least vaguely resembling a free market, detached homeowners such as me would have to compete with other land use that generates much more utility, and thus income from rents, on the same land area, with something like a high-rise. But I am insulated from that, by laws that effectively entrench the upper middle class's preferred land-use pattern of detached suburban housing. Zoning bylaws that prohibit constructing anything else effectively subsidize the suburban lifestyle.

[1] http://www.datalabto.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/toronto-0...

Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by monkeywork on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:34PM (#32569145)
Yet so many people in Toronto choose to complain about:

* Foreign ownership * Greedy landlords * People who own more than one house * AirBNB * etc etc

When the solution is much like you just said, it's a policy decision that is limiting the housing supply (well that plus record population growth in the GTA). https://www.scotiabank.com/ca/en/about/economics/economics-p...

If people spent half the effort on holding their provincial and muni reps accountable for this rather than belly-aching online about all the other items I listed above (which are really symptoms not causes) maybe something will change.

Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by 10hr on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:45PM (#32569349)
I think all the toronto complaints are fair
Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by 8f2ab37a-ed6c on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:21PM (#32568961)
Except it's not a free market, building is regulated. You can't build whatever you want wherever you want in places like SF.
Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by SllX on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:24PM (#32569013)
Not even just SF. Anywhere in California.
Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by djohnston on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:35PM (#32569175)
How do you see it as a free market when there are artificial limits placed on the supply side?
Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by nayuki on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:21PM (#32568966)
> Free market. People forget free market is not allways cheaper.

It's not a free market. Look at how hard it is to get land and approvals to build new housing.

If we had a truly free market in housing, we wouldn't have these problems. High prices would incentivize more construction which would bring down prices.

Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by aaronbrethorst on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:25PM (#32569030)
Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by rychco on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:38PM (#32569229)
I live in a city that's zoned for %80~ single-family homes. In what way is that a free market?
Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by jollyllama on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:35PM (#32569178)
It's not a free market if the government can prevent tenants from paying via rent/eviction freezes.
Re:Why is rent skyrocketing? by avgDev on Tuesday August 23, 2022 @02:26PM (#32569042)
The "FREE MARKET" doesn't exist.